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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    No one said Optimal rank was the ONLY way to go, the system could have been salvaged and made to work properly. Though you clearly didn't read this well enough as they said all optimal gear is being phased out. Only the old recipes will create optimal gear and those are going to be removed eventually too. All new recipes make rank required gear.

    Personally, don't give a damn either way. I supported the more innovative and unique system that could have been made to work exceptionally well on principle alone. It doesn't bother or affect me much that we're going to all required because I followed the ranks on the gear anyway.
    You may followed it but it hard when no one selling the gear for your level due to craft not making them and what people say you should do about it? level up craft o.o why should i level all the craft just to make myself gear? that more work then i should do then by me level up all the craft mean that i wont ever buy gear from the ward and craft wont make profit so it affect everyone but they don't care as long as they can wear the gear they think look good on there char. Like i said if you want to RP you could come up with a system that your underwear can have the look of any gear in game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    You may followed it but it hard when no one selling the gear for your level due to craft not making them and what people say you should do about it? level up craft o.o why should i level all the craft just to make myself gear? that more work then i should do then by me level up all the craft mean that i wont ever buy gear from the ward and craft wont make profit so it affect everyone but they don't care as long as they can wear the gear they think look good on there char. Like i said if you want to RP you could come up with a system that your underwear can have the look of any gear in game.
    The point about low gear not being made has little to do with optimal rank and a whole lot more to do with the obnoxious crafting requirements for a lot of low rank gear. Most of it requires you have a craft higher than the level of the gear, many pieces require parts of much higher rank than the item itself, many pieces are simply far too expensive to be of worth on the market. The crafting changes will certainly help with that much, especially considering materia.

    If the optimal system had been tweaked to offer more visibile and greater penalties for using gear out of optimal it would have forced the same effect. Low rank people would be looking for low rank gear, creating a demand. If the demand is well known enough then people would start selling it. Of course this is all considering the crafting/materia changes as well. With lower rank gear being much cheaper to make it would actually be a good idea to sell it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Nothing is set in stone until implemented. An healthy mix of required rank gear and optimal rank gear is a much better solution.

    Everyone with the same level and class dressed in the same way = crap.
    Unfortunately it pretty much is set in stone. This is an official response of the intent of direction. Those who were in favor of adjusting the optimal gear system voiced their opinions here but it wasn't enough. There isn't much else to be done but prepare for required rank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Moving forward, all gear that is introduced will have requirements placed on them as we will be phasing out the "Optimal Rank" system. With new recipes being introduced in 1.19, the old recipes will be lost and it will not be possible to make that gear anymore going forward. So only the currently existing versions that exist prior to the change will feature "Optimal Rank" features.
    Would it be possible to get some sort of reasoning as to why the devs are making this decision? Personally, I'm rather disappointed that they're completely doing away with the optimal rank feature (though I'll deal with it, I suppose...) as it seems like it would be easy enough to have both optimal and required rank gear coexist.

    I'll also add that while I haven't entirely agreed with every change that has been made or proposed so far, this is the only one that I disagree with enough that I'd consider it to be a negative decision - though, of course, I also realize that this is only my personal opinion. Still, I'd be curious to know why the decision was made the way it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cape-Freak View Post
    Would it be possible to get some sort of reasoning as to why the devs are making this decision? Personally, I'm rather disappointed that they're completely doing away with the optimal rank feature (though I'll deal with it, I suppose...) as it seems like it would be easy enough to have both optimal and required rank gear coexist.
    "There must be a way for us to coexist, can there be a peace between us?"
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    "Diiiiiiiie!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archadius View Post
    "There must be a way for us to coexist, can there be a peace between us?"
    "No peacccccccccce."
    "What is it that you want us to do?"
    "Diiiiiiiie!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archadius View Post
    "There must be a way for us to coexist, can there be a peace between us?"
    "No peacccccccccce."
    "What is it that you want us to do?"
    "Diiiiiiiie!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Moving forward, all gear that is introduced will have requirements placed on them as we will be phasing out the "Optimal Rank" system. With new recipes being introduced in 1.19, the old recipes will be lost and it will not be possible to make that gear anymore going forward. So only the currently existing versions that exist prior to the change will feature "Optimal Rank" features.
    See I here a chance to make money? ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Moving forward, all gear that is introduced will have requirements placed on them as we will be phasing out the "Optimal Rank" system. With new recipes being introduced in 1.19, the old recipes will be lost and it will not be possible to make that gear anymore going forward. So only the currently existing versions that exist prior to the change will feature "Optimal Rank" features.

    It makes me wonder if the gear that won't be possible to make anymore will become rare collectible items that will gain a lot of value. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post

    It makes me wonder if the gear that won't be possible to make anymore will become rare collectible items that will gain a lot of value. Right?
    I'm wondering the same thing...
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