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  1. #11
    Player
    Gillionaire's Avatar
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    Gilsa Mogilsa
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    Pippi Longstocking
    World
    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Squand View Post
    Other than MB2, in your opinion, what's harder than Lucis?
    Just about every 3-4star crafts..
    I can hq lucis tokens about 80% of the time and while it's technically lower percentage of hq than say, 80dura 3 star crafts (can get about 95% hq with those) there's just not much you're risking..

    Even the Manual II tokens aren't that difficult if you consider the hq rate and how you can have up to 5 nq to use as supra token, it's just the cost of each craft and the potential of waste that makes it so notorious.

    Other than those, Primal weapons? 4 star crafts?
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  2. #12
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    JonBigwood's Avatar
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    Jon Bigwood
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I think Lucis will be made easier, like the relic is always made easier with time. But then it won't be the best weapon available, something better will appear. If the problem now are the moonstones and other materials, either the moonstones required will be less, or moonstones GC price will be less, or they will start to drop in many dungeons, or retainers will start to bring moonstones or some way to make them easier. The same for the other items needed if they are the cause of the time gate we have now. Or maybe require 5 or 10 items turn-in instead of 20, whatever.

    Usually the long grindy last step is made easier when a longer grindier new last step is established or some time after.
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  3. #13
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    Chida Rake
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    Omega
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    lucis was easy to get, all you needed to do was craft 2000 or so green i55 items and trade for seals to get all the mats needed for every tool including gatherer,

    I did it in 4 days or so, so yeah id say they were the easiest step even with all the crafting which in itself was easy just timely.

    unless your 4* crafting lucis is not needed and even then not needed but it does help give you an edge on the crafts, so I doubt they will be needed in xpac but surely there will be some benefit to having them. maybe like relic to zodiac was... or then again maybe SE wants to level the playing field and so there will be no benefit.

    basically if you don't want to chase the lucis tools, then don't.. but they are easy to get.
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  4. #14
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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by chidarake View Post
    lucis was easy to get, all you needed to do was craft 2000 or so green i55 items and trade for seals to get all the mats needed for every tool including gatherer,

    I did it in 4 days or so, so yeah id say they were the easiest step even with all the crafting which in itself was easy just timely.

    unless your 4* crafting lucis is not needed and even then not needed but it does help give you an edge on the crafts, so I doubt they will be needed in xpac but surely there will be some benefit to having them. maybe like relic to zodiac was... or then again maybe SE wants to level the playing field and so there will be no benefit.

    basically if you don't want to chase the lucis tools, then don't.. but they are easy to get.
    Lucis is difficult in the same way that Zodiac is difficult. The hardest mechanic is motivating yourself to do the same tedious crap thousands of times.
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