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  1. #31
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    RygaenYuui's Avatar
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    Eauijhkuu Yuui
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    This would honestly give much more diversity to the system and would resolve retarded things like waiting 70 minutes+ for a tank to queue a run. So much potential is being wasted imho. Not sure what they're afraid of tbh; they claim balance but if the balance of XIV is so rigid that this would screw everything up then perhaps they need to go back to the drawing board with their content implementation.
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  2. #32
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    Ilenya's Avatar
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by OMEGA_HACK View Post
    I think the judgment of when to use Aetherflow would force balance as it did in XI, when playing scholar if you were a secondary healer you could switch to the dark arts and use some dps abilities because you didn't need all your strategems (same thing as aetherflow charges) for healing. I think if a SCH is trying to be a good healer they won't forsake their duty by wasting charges on things other than for healing and/or MP recovery.
    I've no comment on FFXI's SCH, since I never got into it and never actually had a group to try it out if I did, but I would think a number of SCH know when they can bust out Bane for the extra DPS, so it's not as if we don't have that choice already.
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  3. #33
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    OMEGA_HACK's Avatar
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    Altrage A'uli
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Yeah the idea is knowing when to dps with scholar, but if you are the only healer and your doing endgame content then you'd probably not use it as frequently as let's say Wanderer's Palace Normal Mode.
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  4. #34
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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    To be frank, I never expect them to chance the starting class/Jobs in such a huge way. Simple reason is the time it would take. Making a new Job takes a year of development and while a rework probably wouldn't take nearly as long, reworking all the classes and Jobs just isn't feasible.

    Frankly, the only one I could see would perhaps be the SCH/SMN but even that seems unlikely to me. If they did do it they probably wouldn't go reworking them completely from the ground up and they likely wouldn't just start handing new abilities to them. If SCH was broken from SMN it would probably be pretty much the same class it already is. They seem happy with where it is now. It's not really underpowered.
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  5. #35
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    Kokotsu Kotsu
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    Masamune
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    Archer Lv 70
    I want a true supporter class like Shiroe the Enchanter from Log Horizon and make Bard more specific either Support or DPS.

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  6. #36
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    Rem Crescent
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    Ragnarok
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    Rogue Lv 90
    To OMEGA: I agree with you about smn. It really needs a rework but rather then wasting things ill make arcanist a job(what is now smn). Summoner should be a caster that casts each spells like the black mage but instead of elemental magic he uses summons

    Overall, some of those classes should have at least a second jobs if they really dont want to rework the system. Rogue (thief), archer (ranger), conjurer (geomancer), marauder (berserker/viking) and arcanist to be a job. To be honest, it will be difficult to see that though
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  7. #37
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    Eldon Pierce
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by nuyu11 View Post
    I want a true supporter class like Shiroe the Enchanter from Log Horizon and make Bard more specific either Support or DPS.

    I want cloaks like that ...

    I suppose it's beyond the capabilities of most PCs ...
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  8. #38
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    Daklegrand Oriflamme
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Terin View Post
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    I've been feeling the exact same way, and I wish there was a way we could this get idea directly in front of the developers. I know it would take a lot of work, but it would be a big step in making FFXIV feel like a Final Fantasy caliber game. Personally, I'd really like them to separate everything into its own job, classes included, FFXI-style. From there, I'd like to see some of the class quests reworked so that they more closely adhere to the job concept. For instance, paladins are supposed to be holy warriors, but in FFXIV they're just some trumped up guard unit for a rich person.
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  9. #39
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    Xoan Grahm
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I would love to see Lancer get a Tank role, like Templar from the FFT series. I love spears, I love tanking, and I wish i use a spear while tanking and there is a example in the series as it is. I was really hoping it would come with the expansion, since the war with dragons would give a good reason, but Dark Knight also looks awesome.
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  10. #40
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    Jared Kane
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    Diabolos
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Also, having thought more about the Pugilist specifically a little more; what if, in addition to attacking enemiea directly from the front, they becamr Tanks, similar to real-world boxers? Again, just an idea.
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