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    About these "calamities" and "Astral/Umbral" eras...

    You know, ever since Patch 2.2 (with the introduction of Yugiri and the Domans), I started wondering...these people that come from continents far away from Aldenard never actually experienced what the Eorzeans call the "Astral"/"Umbral" eras, have they?

    I mean sure, aside from Meracydia being invaded by the Allagans millennia ago, there is no (known) record of other continents being involved, or even being aware about events directly related to Eorzea, right?
    Not even the most recent calamity that led into the 7th Umbral era (Bahamut being released and devastating most of the land).

    In fact, are we even sure that their calendars are the same as the ones that Eorzeans use?
    With the whole "Astral"/"Umbral" nomenclatures and dates?

    I get the distinct feeling that, while Eorzea is indeed a very important location (considering that it's at the very center of Aetheric activities), not that many people outside it know or are aware of its history...then again, maybe the Domans were kind of isolated.

    Thoughts?
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    Last edited by Exodus-E; 03-22-2015 at 11:33 AM.

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    The "Age of Endless Frost" (5th Umbral Calamity) was said to have frozen seas, suggesting it affects more than Eorzea, and may have gripped Hydaelyn in Snowball Earth.
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    The astral/unbral eras do affect the rest of the world, it's just that each nation/continent prior to Garlemald invading them and "unifying" them just don't know/care about Eorzea.

    They may have vague stories about Eorzea just like Eorzeans have vague stories about foreign continents and their nations. They probably have their own mythos regarding Astral/Umbral Eras.
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    The stuff on the Allag suggests their empire spread beyond Eorzea. Since their calamity destroyed their empire completely, it is safe to say that the calamity reached beyond Eorzea. It is mentioned early in the Zodiac quest that what makes Eorzea special is the very high levels of Aether Eorzea has.
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    They do affect the entire world, but probably not quite to the extent that they affect Eorzea.

    This is one of the reasons why the invasion of Eorzea by the Garlean Empire actually makes sense, and why people actually felt bad for defeating them. They may have been massive jerks, but the people of Eorzea are a bunch of children playing with matches on top of a pile of gasoline, and every time they set the place ablaze, the fire spreads to their neighbors house.
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    They effect the other Continents and other regions of Hydaelyn, we just don't know to what effect. We don't know if the Earthquakes of the Fourth Umbral era that hit the Crystal Tower also could be felt elsewhere or if the flooding of the Sixth Umbral era hit other Continents. We only know that the Fifth Umbral era allowed Miqo'te to follow their prey across the ice and into Eorzea.

    As for calendars we also don't know. Eorzea's days/weeks/months are based on Lewphon's 'The Five Ages,' we would pretty much need Yugiri to go "yes we follow these moon months also" for any kind of confirmation.
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    If the Zodiak Braves were truly those who fought against Calamity, we can extrapolate just by the fact that the weapons have histories in Ilsabard, Othard, and Thavnair as evidence that the effects of an Umbral Era stretch far and wide, especially given that the Near East has their own version of the legend of the Archons.
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    The seven umbral era began with the chaos that Bahamut strated, but he just made this destruction on Eorzea, not any orther place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    The seven umbral era began with the chaos that Bahamut strated, but he just made this destruction on Eorzea, not any orther place.
    I find the entire declaration of 7th Umbral era suspect. What exactly was so different in those 5 years? Why did stopping a single Garlemald invasion usher in a new ERA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torquil View Post
    I find the entire declaration of 7th Umbral era suspect. What exactly was so different in those 5 years? Why did stopping a single Garlemald invasion usher in a new ERA?
    The 7th Umbral era, so far, has only started climate change: Coerthas is in a perpetual winter, dry bone is constantly raining, camp tranquil was formally a great lake, but reduced to a swamp. Most importantly, the seal has been broken and now everyone one can summon primals. Even Yugiri stated as much that there are similar creatures like primals in/around Doma.

    Each Umbral Eras represents an element and all elements have already be exhausted. the 7th umbral era could be non-elemental
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