Summoner or Ninja?

[Akiza]

Jobs like NIN - DRG and BLM have simpler and easier rotations, are less dificult to play with. Also SMN have great AoE but lack or burst (BLM are superior in AoE tho). NIN have lame AoE but great burst.

SMN its a really challeging class, ur always busy: doing DoTs, moving/buffing ur pet/ Calculating ur mana/ aether flows, resurrecting dead melees...
As SMN u will be able to do amazing stuff if u know how to play with, like killing dungeons bosses by urself when everything looks lost (even primals), farming all fates/maps without help, but if ur not into such things just do NIN. I dont to static, dont have time/ dont like that, but so far i can do everthing DF can offer with no trouble at all.

I played SMN on several MMO (L2 - Terra- WoW- Aion) and they are usually not a top DPS but a very selfsuficient char, some ppl just cant get that.

Terra doesn't have a Summoner, WoW Summoner is the Shaman which is as powerful as the Mage, Aion the Summoner was based around crowd control and AoE. Melee Dps were usually top DPS because the stance they had the highest single target DPS. The Summoner in this game is a Summoner in name only it really is a Necromancer/Puppetmaster.

[DemonHunter]

Terra doesn't have a Summoner, WoW Summoner is the Shaman which is as powerful as the Mage, Aion the Summoner was based around crowd control and AoE. Melee Dps were usually top DPS because the stance they had the highest single target DPS. The Summoner in this game is a Summoner in name only it really is a Necromancer/Puppetmaster.

Have you played any of these games? Tera doesn't have a summoner you're right, WoW has both Warlocks and Shadow priests who are MUCH more like the summoner in FFXIV than Shamans. The Aion Spiritmaster was hardly based on AoE since 90% of all abilities were single target.

[Akiza]

Have you played any of these games? Tera doesn't have a summoner you're right, WoW has both Warlocks and Shadow priests who are MUCH more like the summoner in FFXIV than Shamans. The Aion Spiritmaster was hardly based on AoE since 90% of all abilities were single target.

The Warlock plays more like a Necromancer and Puppetmaster not a traditional Final Fantasy Summoner. I wouldn't call what we have now a Summoner it is merely an Arcanist with Fester. The WoW Elementalist Shaman is the closest to the image of a Final Fantasy Summoner. All SE has to do with Shaman is tweak it so its like Elementalist/Summoner from FFTA

[Valoiz]

Terra doesn't have a Summoner, WoW Summoner is the Shaman which is as powerful as the Mage, Aion the Summoner was based around crowd control and AoE.

Tera have Mystic class: "Summoned thralls and frontal AoE makes the mystic a solo powerhouse" (DPS - suport)

WoW: Have Warlock Demonology- Shaman were never as powerfull DPS as a mage/warlock cuz, as druid, are versatile class, able to heal himself, battle res and buff ppl ( i was elemental shaman) .

Aion: close to 70% of the DMG comes from the pet and u just do CC and actually have little AoE. (never as powerfull as other DPS but close to impsoible to kill in pvp xD, CC make then valuable)

L2 Have 4 SMN jobs, 3 pure SMN (90% of the dmg comes from ur pet) and Necromancer (60 char/ 40% pet) ( low DPS compare to nukers but really OP in 1 vs 1 pvp)

[Houston009]

Ninja is better for end game because it is easier to put out good damage then a Summoner

lol "easier".

[OmegaNovaios]

The Summoner in this game is a Summoner in name only it really is a Necromancer/Puppetmaster.

The Summoner in this game is like DRG in FFXI except the pet does not die easily. You have very little to no interaction with your pet during any given battle. Hell at least in FFXI when DRG used a weapon skill or spell the pet combo-ed with that action based on what was used with several breath attacks, way more rewarding and cool. SMN pet does very little damage. It's nearly non-existent as the SMN as was a viable DPS w/o pet pre-BLM buff.

The SMN class has very little to do with pet mastery, save the Lore that is behind it, but guess what who the hell cares about the lore of a boring class? I sure don't. Gameplay is WAY more important than lore. We have white knights all day for Egi appearance because of lore. We have white knights all day for DOTs because of lore. What is to stop SE from redesigning the lore (they already redesigned the entire game) if people REALLY do care so much?

Many people say the SMN is like WoW Warlock (Affliction) because it a couple of similar features, many say it's nothing like WoW Warlock (Affliction) because of a couple of differences; I say SMN is both, what SMN has Warlock has and more. In fact it's more boring than the class it's balanced off of because the difference in SMN and Warlock is that SMN DOES NOT have those features (which IMO still wouldn't be what I hoped to see in SMN).

And SE claims FFXIV DRG absolutely cannot have a pet nor will a 2nd job branch off of LNC to include a pet because SE says the player will be upset if the player damage is lowered to make up for the damage of the pet. Look at SMN that's exactly what it is; nothing more, nothing less. Should SMN's be upset their damage is lowered because there is a pet? Nay, I say SMN should be upset that their pet damage is lowered because of the player.

SMN is a super cool concept. In FFXI I never got around to leveling multiple classes because of how slow it was. I always envied SMN in FFXI, it looked so cool and versatile (that is coming from an avid RDM who did it all on 1 job with different gear sets/sub jobs: Heal, Support, Tank, Nuke, Solo, etc.)

I don't know if it is because SE rushed SMN and/or SCH, because it's too complicated to balance 2 jobs off 1 class, or because SE doesn't understand the importance of SMN to not only the brand of Final Fantasy but as a staple of the MOST PROMINENT PET CLASS/JOB of not only MMOs but EVERY RPG to date EVER!

[NasirILL]

I say ninja. I have a bard at 50, slightly geared, drg at 31 but so far im really enjoying rogue class and cant wait for Ninja.

Gonna try pug/mnk next attack animations look dope.

[Vallhallix]

Jobs like NIN - DRG and BLM have simpler and easier rotations, are less dificult to play with.

SMN its a really challeging class

It's really not that challenging. Next to BLM its the easiest class to learn in the game IMO. As a SMN you don't need to worry about any positionals or combos whatsoever. The class is so easy to learn I didn't even bother to look at any rotations for SMN back when I first started playing it (and this coming from someone who has not played the previous FF). I picked up on it myself and lo and behold I was doing it correctly. Same with BLM. None of the dps classes are really complex (exception of MNK which I never played), and anyone who isn't a casual gamer should pick up on them very swiftly. SMN is not anymore difficult than BLM. One spams fire and keeps thunder procs up, the other reapplies DoTs and ruin spam. Plus SMN is even easier when it comes to moving. Though people exaggerate BLM's inability to dodge.

[Akiza]

Movement doesn't affect Black Mage more than Summoner because they can hold procs which do more damage than Fester.

[Vallhallix]

Melee is most definately the more challenging of the dps classes. They're more vunerable to taking hits, they have less self healing too. (In WoD as my BLM the rest of my alliance died, I wouldn't have survived without physick) I love NIN and got it to 50 but I don't think I could use it "seriously". Melee disorients me too much. So much crap in your face all the time. So I give props to all the good melee dpsers. Range also has the luxury of kinda being able to go into a dungeon blind and succeeding well. I'd hate to go in one as my NIN blind and then get smacked by a boss super move lol