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    What happens to our iLevels?

    Does anyone know what this means for our current iLevels? With the level cap increasing to 60 and likely the end game iLevels being higher then 135, what happens at 51 or even through 59? Can we expect our WoD, BCoB, Poe and Zodiac gear to become useless right away or what?

    Im not tring to cause a panic or complain, Im just really curious as to what will happen with gear levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chukkaque View Post
    Does anyone know what this means for our current iLevels? With the level cap increasing to 60 and likely the end game iLevels being higher then 135, what happens at 51 or even through 59? Can we expect our WoD, BCoB, Poe and Zodiac gear to become useless right away or what?

    Im not tring to cause a panic or complain, Im just really curious as to what will happen with gear levels.
    Before someone jumps in with "WoW did this, so XIV will be the same," Yoshida said in his PAX interview with Famitsu that current gear will not be replaced as soon as you hit 51. So while 135 gear will probably be replaced by the time you hit 60, I can't imagine it happening immediately, especially since the MSQ only requires up to 90.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Before someone jumps in with "WoW did this, so XIV will be the same," Yoshida said in his PAX interview with Famitsu that current gear will not be replaced as soon as you hit 51. So while 135 gear will probably be replaced by the time you hit 60, I can't imagine it happening immediately, especially since the MSQ only requires up to 90.
    I'll jump in then and point out that WoW didn't do this. At least not with Mists. It took a few levels before the quest greens overtook the cataclysm (4.3) epic gear in ilvl. Most people were switched out to quest greens and blues by level 88, but it didn't happen at level 86.

    I'm in the "around 55" camp for FFXIV as the level most players will trade out their gear. Maybe 56 or 57 for 135 gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    I'll jump in then and point out that WoW didn't do this. At least not with Mists.
    That's what is called "responding to player feedback." Never played WoW past level 15, but I have word from people in my FC that it used to be notorious for gear resets whenever an expansion hit.

    I think we can all be glad that FFXIV doesn't feel the need to repeat too many of other games' failures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    That's what is called "responding to player feedback." Never played WoW past level 15, but I have word from people in my FC that it used to be notorious for gear resets whenever an expansion hit.
    It only took 8 years right? It took 10 for them to finally add in the "No really, I don't want to PVP" flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    That's what is called "responding to player feedback." Never played WoW past level 15, but I have word from people in my FC that it used to be notorious for gear resets whenever an expansion hit.

    I think we can all be glad that FFXIV doesn't feel the need to repeat too many of other games' failures.

    Only the heroic gear would be dropped on the earliest quests in WoW. If you did high end raiding, that gear usually lasted until you started to get mid-max level blue and purples. By Max level you were replacing everything with the new heroic gear.

    I see FFXIV pretty much being the same way. If you have i130 it will probably carry you to 60, but if you have i100 or less you will probably be dropping that early on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teryaani View Post
    I'll jump in then and point out that WoW didn't do this. At least not with Mists. It took a few levels before the quest greens overtook the cataclysm (4.3) epic gear in ilvl. Most people were switched out to quest greens and blues by level 88, but it didn't happen at level 86.

    I'm in the "around 55" camp for FFXIV as the level most players will trade out their gear. Maybe 56 or 57 for 135 gear.
    They didn't do it in Warlords either. I had my legendary cloak from Mists all the way until I hit 100, and still some of the stats were better than most of the blues I could find, and was replaced more for the ilvl requirements in content than the "omgleetstatz"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Before someone jumps in with "WoW did this, so XIV will be the same," Yoshida said in his PAX interview with Famitsu that current gear will not be replaced as soon as you hit 51. So while 135 gear will probably be replaced by the time you hit 60, I can't imagine it happening immediately, especially since the MSQ only requires up to 90.
    Which is exactly what WoW does. If you have some of the *best equipment available prior to the launch of an expansion* in WoW, generally that gear will be better than most of the gear you obtain during your trip through the first 4-7 new levels of the 10 available.
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    pretty much the same with any other MMO level 51 gear > all 50 gear. All ilvl 130/135 will be beaten by standard 51 gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurihyuga View Post
    pretty much the same with any other MMO level 51 gear > all 50 gear. All ilvl 130/135 will be beaten by standard 51 gear.
    Not what they said will happen. You won't replace your 130 gear at level 51, but maybe by 58/59 you will have replaced a lot of it with replacing everything at 60.
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