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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    Finally saved up enough for a small house but there are not any to buy. I should have just done rmt like everyone else to get enough. Play at your own pace, don't live your life on here...etc. No it doesn't support that at all. I'm angry and pissed off. I have a job and a family in real life. Why shouldn't I be able to work towards a house on here? All the housing junk they've been giving away with all the events I've been faithfully saving up until I could get my own house, well that's a nice kick in the face.


    I've builta bridge for all you trolls
    i don't buy the "I hava real life" argument either.

    when you spend time playing the game, you got to make priorities, and if buying a house isn't a priority with the time u got, then you won't make it. putting other stuff aside like relic, dailies or raiding to save money for a house it's perfectly doable. you just got to prioritize what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    9 months may seem like a long time, but it really isn't.
    9 months is a lot of time. Certainly 5 years for example is even longer; but that does not make 9 months any less of a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    I left this game for a bit over a year
    As did I. I don't have anything left from my legacy time as a result, apart from a bonus fantasia.
    But that is fine with me, because after all it was I that decided to stop playing (whether by choice or not)
    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    people move on
    Aye, they move on. Moving on means letting go. I recently left WoW. Not the first time I've done so, but it took me 10 years to do while also deleting all of my characters. What would the point be in keeping my characters if I dont play?

    In case I want to come back? In case you want to come back?
    You didn't pay for the game for 9 months. Exactly on what basis do you assume that you have a right to hold game content ''hostage'' just in the case you might come back?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    They'll want a house if they had it, and it's an incentive for them to come back to the game
    If a house is that important for someone they will find a way to keep their house.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verdan View Post
    This would hardly be an issue if plots weren't insanely limited. There are 1440 total plots in the game. Right now, there's 6,545 people playing the jumbo cactpot. These numbers don't work together.
    Why do you think plots are limited? Part of the reason is due to FC/personal sharing wards. But a huge reason as well is because a) people own multiple plots, and b) a lot of plots are owned by players that either make no use of their house or don't even play the game.(anymore)


    Your number comparison of the cactpot and amount of plots is a poor argument. It actually shows a favorable amount of plots compared to the amount of actively playing people. Less then 1/5 of people even have the desire to obtain a house to begin with; and that includes those that only use it for the convienient teleporting/mb/gardening or ''just because''
    Quote Originally Posted by starLivitation View Post
    i don't buy the "I hava real life" argument either.

    when you spend time playing the game, you got to make priorities, and if buying a house isn't a priority with the time u got, then you won't make it. putting other stuff aside like relic, dailies or raiding to save money for a house it's perfectly doable. you just got to prioritize what you want.
    From what I can tell a lot of (smaller houses, and perhaps medium) are bought just for the sake of having a house rather then people really wanting one. Personally I wouldnt mind if they added something you had to do on a daily (for example, doesnt have to be daily per se) basis for 3 months to be able to buy a house at all. (regardless of its cost or size)
    That wouldnt really help with the current plots, but with new plots it should give more of a chance for anyone that reaaally wants that house to obtain one, rather then someone that buys it and never uses it.

    In other words, have it involve a grind that isnt gil related.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    snip of goodness
    You sir, are my new favorite person on these boards.

    But yes, I've already said over and over my stance, and already posted my idea. But with regards to plots reseting, while it could be still only a small bandaid to the current housing crisis, here's my 2 cents, along with those of other people from other housing threads that explain the point perhaps better than I'll ever do.

    If they did add the reset feature, you could prevent losing your house by simply not unsubscribing and actually USE the house plot you took from other potential owners. It's no matter how much effort you put into something. If you don't use it, you don't need it. 10-15€/$ a month is not that big of an issue to pay for to keep a house, or hell, just have an FC mate log in and actually use the house to keep it up. It's just really sad to me how many people don't seem to use their houses daily as I do. Wards are ghost towns at the moment (and the funny thing is that Yoshida said they implemented neighborhoods because players demanded them. I wonder where those are players now? Maybe waiting for their house still.)

    It's nothing personal and I share owners' feelings, but remember that house owners consist of 2% of the population, so they're still a minority and the uprage wouldn't be that great, not bigger than the uproar that was had when housing and personal housing were first implemented. And most important of all, the efforts and understandable feelings of a few (like yourself) are not superior to the amounts of currently abandoned ghost houses of players that will probably never return that are right now in the oldest wards. I've made my searches and though I cannot put down names, I know there's at least 3-4 long abandoned FC houses in each housing areas as of now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    I also agree with the post above mine. If losing a house after a few months of being completely inactive sounds unfair to some, leaving tons of ghost houses and stealing active people's chances to enjoy the house system sounds worse to me. No one can decide when people will be back or if they ever will, so it feels unfair to wait for them forever while other players are locked out of the content.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maveree View Post
    Houses are a valuable, limited source, and don't think for a second that you were the only one who worked hard for one. In fact, the people who desire houses themselves worked just as hard and they can't get one because of people "AFKing for a few months." A "few months" is a "few" too many. It is VERY fair. Not fair is hoarding an unused house with no subscription fee and expecting homeless players to just ignore the horse in the room that is hoarding it for when you come back some day (TM). That's a pretty warped idea of what you think is fair there.

    All the suggestions are great, and even if they only implemented the idea of having housing relinquished of those who don't use it, it'd be a great bandaid to slap on to the problem that active servers experience with the demand not being met with supply.
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    I am not sure if this is true. But on certain servers where there was a lot of gil floating around people bought multiple smalls. They have more garden spots to have smalls then a medium and it cost the same. So if the garden market is a little off you will never see any activity. They could have at least locked it to account like free weddings where you need to register and pick a time.

    Actually I like that idea as I type. You are on a waiting list and no reselling plots. When a small/medium or large becomes available you get 24 hours to pick it up. If you pass on it since you don't like the spot the next one on the list gets to bid. If they are going to keep the current system into 3.0 they need to think of someway to improve it. If they can not add adequate space.
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    So frustrating. We saved up the gil, we need more wards. Balmung is out of every plot of any size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    I'm I'm saying that's how it works for me. I don't spend my entire life on here and those are my reasons, my real life is not an excuse, sad you think it is. I can mention my life how I choose without you needing to censor it.
    I understand your frustration, but we all have lives..
    I notice that you have 3 mage classes to lv 50 and not much in the way of gathering/crafting.. I assume your GSM lv 50 is meant for spiritbonding?
    So you already know how to make the money in this game, you would've got your house if you just found that out sooner
    Considering that, whoever happened to stumble upon it before you bought the house from underneath you. You don't need to assume that everybody else is a cheater / no-lifer to have gotten further than you.


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    Anybody who's better player than me = no lifer

    That's a toxic attitude
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  7. #107
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    They should try to imitate LOTRO for housing. LOTRO is mostly an open MMO with not much instances (unlike FF XIV which has small instanced maps), and you can walk from the Shire to Rivendelle without entering into one, but their housing is like FF XIV with neighboorhoods, with numerous different sizes of houses in the neighnoorhood, with merchants NPCs, banks, where you can teleport to your guild or your house. And there when all the housing instances are full more are created instantly so all you have to do is wait a few days. So how come Turbine can pull it off with LOTRO when SE cannot with FF XIV? You can only get one house per account in LOTRO but all your alts can access the house.

    That is another thing, SE should only allow one house per alt or account. Right now, some are buying numerous plots leaving none to the others.

    I really loved my deluxe elf house in LOTRO and I'd like to get a small house here at some point but all the housing wards are full here on Gilgamesh. I admit I don't have the gils yet but that is because I'm burned out on crafting and gathering, that is what I did to get the deluxe house in LOTRO, but right now the idea of crafting/gathering make me wanna faint. I bought a personal room in our FC so at least I have that.
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    I hope Ishgard gets it's own housing area at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    I hope Ishgard gets it's own housing area at some point.
    While I hope we get Ishgard housing too, I -really- hope they fix the current problems before they have their team work on a new area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korbash View Post
    That is another thing, SE should only allow one house per alt or account. Right now, some are buying numerous plots leaving none to the others.
    Yeah, I know a person on Balmung who owns three small houses across her/his account... I was so annoyed to read that.
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