Wutai, Botter/Dual Boxer/RMT please Post Proof in Here !

[Medura]

People have been banned before for posting videoes of rmt, that was a kinda funny case, the guy said he didnt bot or anything, they checked up both him and the one who told it. Turns out he had botted to, (or something like that), it was many "i lost my account" etc posts earlier. SE has a nice policy (after being sued a couple of times) that they won't ban if not 100% sure. Also, player pictures "can be edited" it is no real proof. It is better to send in the form they got, and just continue on your path, than posting pictures. One guy used fraps to film a botter. He got banned for using fraps (third-party program) all this was in the start of the game though. Check old posts at zam

[Lauro]

People have been banned before for posting videoes of rmt, that was a kinda funny case, the guy said he didnt bot or anything, they checked up both him and the one who told it. Turns out he had botted to, (or something like that), it was many "i lost my account" etc posts earlier. SE has a nice policy (after being sued a couple of times) that they won't ban if not 100% sure. Also, player pictures "can be edited" it is no real proof. It is better to send in the form they got, and just continue on your path, than posting pictures. One guy used fraps to film a botter. He got banned for using fraps (third-party program) all this was in the start of the game though. Check old posts at zam

WOW really FRAPs Banned ?? thats kinda fuc** up isnt ?? oh well

[MokoMuncher]

That same person Oox xoo and her troop was all over Lindblum last night aswell

[Lauro]

That same person Oox xoo and her troop was all over Lindblum last night aswell

Do a "Search" and only the the Folloing words

"Oox"

And then do another ones and type this one

"Xoo"

you will see that 80% of the pople with those names are rather "suspicus"

[JackDaniels]

Wow, FRAPS is considered a third party tool? It doesn't really give anybody an unfair advantage. People record videos of themselves and upload to youtube all the time in both XI and XIV. On a side note this video is just pure awesome-sauce. I think the highlander's expression at 0:53 is the best part about it

[Yogard]

Wow, FRAPS is considered a third party tool? It doesn't really give anybody an unfair advantage. People record videos of themselves and upload to youtube all the time in both XI and XIV. On a side note this video is just pure awesome-sauce. I think the highlander's expression at 0:53 is the best part about it

Whoa! Someone been filming my cooking huh?!
No, wait. I do not recognise these ladies... alright then.

Obviously I can not say for certain, but I can say I doubt a lot about anyone getting punished for using FRAPS, or anything similar as they merely record video and/or snap-shots of it. Sure, it is a 3rd party tool, aye, but it does not provide an unfair advantage to anyone, nor does it alter the game-client in any way.


As for the topic itself, I think you are doing a good thing as in bringing your concerns of this out here as many do not realise it at all. I'm not saying anyone you reported is definitely doing something wrong, but I have witnessed similar going-ons myself.

That said, pointing out specific characters and accusing them of anything, be it spot-on or not, is not really something for us players to do, at the forum. It might very well be counter-productive actually towards your own ability of enjoying the service... Instead, just as you mentioned yourself, the right way to report such characters and activities is via the Support Centre. ^^

Even though Rule-Enforcement is likely nowhere intended as a player-activity, it might be OK'ish in a game where you can actually do something to hinder the botters a little (PvP environments), though not as to enforce the rules, but well, if you can attack them at your hunting-spot, then why not! But here it is really quite pointless as there is basically nothing we can do, as regular players. After ridding the 'reporting to the community' part from the topic, there doesn't seem to be much left to discuss.


A word on 'dual-boxing'.

Assuming the policy is the same as it is for FFXI, it is fine to play on as many accounts at the same time as one is paying for, as long as the game-client is not modified in any way (such as altering the client so that more than one instances can be started where they normally couldn't and/or software to control the character(s) for you, also known as botting). Imagine 2 or more computers and/or consoles.
Obviously account-trading/sharing is prohibited as well so using many accounts that are not one's property is not allowed either.


But I've already gone on for too long so I'll stop while I still can. ^^;
Try to enjoy the game more, and worry less about things that are the service provider's concerns is what I (and many others surely would) say. :]

Just some thoughts~
Blubb.

[Laughlyn]

Im dual boxing, and you know what... im not breakin any laws.
Im freakin using my own god damn guest pass code on my other PC to play my 2nd character.

Why, cuz im using my 2nd character as a teleport-wh...um..companion.
And ya i play both on my own, 2 controllers, 2 PC's....
lol not my problem if some ppl cant have what i can.

I see no proof in any of the pictures above of any suspisious RMT activities.

Some ppl really should know the diffrence between dual-boxing, rmt and Bots.

[Medura]

Im dual boxing, and you know what... im not breakin any laws.
Im freakin using my own god damn guest pass code on my other PC to play my 2nd character.

Why, cuz im using my 2nd character as a teleport-wh...um..companion.
And ya i play both on my own, 2 controllers, 2 PC's....
lol not my problem if some ppl cant have what i can.

I see no proof in any of the pictures above of any suspisious RMT activities.

Some ppl really should know the diffrence between dual-boxing, rmt and Bots.

Dual boxing means playing 2 characters on the same COMPUTER. No rules about being more on one ip.

[Lauro]

Dual boxing means playing 2 characters on the same COMPUTER. No rules about being more on one ip.

This as been said MANY times and "OK , We get it" but there is a RULE about selling accounts and try to get "real money" Hence Real Money Trade "RMT" activities. please help report this player at the Special Task Force of SE at "http://support.eu.square-enix.com"

I Imagine somoene might post something like there is "evidence" about the RMT acitivies in there.. but i would like to ask you hasnt this been discuss enought and proven than "95%" of the times this activities to be RMT , by discuss i mean in FFXI and several other places like ZAM forums and some in YG.

[Nanaya]

It's RMT because the Conjurer is basically a shepard to like a dozen little Lalafell, still in weathered starting gear, all R32 CON, and it's especially apparent when you see them all doing levequests "together."

Rather brilliant honestly, even if you only get about 5k gil for that particular quest, it's 5k going 8 ways, with minimal effort. Now multiply that 40,000 by the amount of leves you could potentially do x8 every 36 hours, and it's a fairly staggering amount for how easy it is.

Edit: Checked the profiles on Lodestone, it's been a little while since I was Physical Level 17, but I'm pretty sure they aren't even bothering to allocate any stat points.