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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enthy View Post
    I don't think you read my original post in this thread. I think sliders are a bad idea too. As for race/gender change... why not? whats it to you? If you don't want to you don't have to. personally, i don't plan to race/gender change. but i think people that would like to should be allowed to. ....But seriously, why would that bother you?
    Having used sliders in both City of Heroes and Aion, I much prefer sliders. The tricky part is that you have to be very careful in regards to the limits, height especially. I was annoyed to no end by the hordes of midgets that populated Aion, something that could have been fixed very easily with a minimum height requirement ('You must be at least this tall --> to ride this ride!').

    The horrible part is that even if you don't look at the sliders, both of these games STILL have far more options that we do.There are at least 40 hair options in Aion, and slightly more for City of Heroes. Presets and face styles are the same - more than 10x what we see in FFXIV. This simply shouldn't be the case, considering the fact that SE has FAR more resources at their disposal than NCSoft.

    I would be for allowing race/gender changes if for no other reason that reducing the number of catgirls running around the game currently. ^-^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    The horrible part is that even if you don't look at the sliders, both of these games STILL have far more options that we do.There are at least 40 hair options in Aion, and slightly more for City of Heroes. Presets and face styles are the same - more than 10x what we see in FFXIV. This simply shouldn't be the case, considering the fact that SE has FAR more resources at their disposal than NCSoft.
    Same for Perfect World, a FREE game. Game content aside, it still has the most impressive character creation system I saw so far (even more in-depth than the one of Aion).
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  3. #173
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    I don't know... I'm not a graphics tech or anything. But i just can't imagine gear design/detail reaching it's full potential with sliders. I mean.. i guess they could do it, but would it rob the game in other areas? I have no idea lol.
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    Last edited by Enthy; 04-05-2011 at 07:45 AM.

  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Same for Perfect World, a FREE game. Game content aside, it still has the most impressive character creation system I saw so far (even more in-depth than the one of Aion).
    Did you try APB? The only Good thing about APB was the character creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Did you try APB? The only Good thing about APB was the character creation.
    Nope, but judging by the video i saw on youtube, it's on par with PW but with better graphic effects (muscle ratio etc)
    And from what I saw, it also has realistic limits on the sliders, unlike PW/AION etc. So that's a system I'd like to see here ideally, which most likely won't happen :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cendres View Post
    I might have imagined this but I remember hearing a barber shop for XIV was considered at one point or was going to be added in. More hair styles would really be appreciated, I don't think we'll ever see sliders because SE likes control too much But more options for color and style, I don't see why that can't be added in later on.
    Yeah what is up with SE's need to control everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Nope, but judging by the video i saw on youtube, it's on par with PW but with better graphic effects (muscle ratio etc)
    And from what I saw, it also has realistic limits on the sliders, unlike PW/AION etc. So that's a system I'd like to see here ideally, which most likely won't happen :P
    EVE Online is releasing what seems to be a very comprehensive character creation tool. However, so far the characters will only have limited functionality (you just walk around a spaceship), so im not sure how feasible it is in a full MMO.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5N2G...eature=related
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    Yeah what is up with SE's need to control everything.
    Tbh, they don't. I see no more control on caracter creation than any other MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gifthorse View Post
    EVE Online is releasing what seems to be a very comprehensive character creation tool. However, so far the characters will only have limited functionality (you just walk around a spaceship), so im not sure how feasible it is in a full MMO.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5N2G...eature=related
    Eve is branching out into a Sister MMO where you can link your character into both games at once Play from your space ship in one, then drop ship ontop a planetside gunfest in the other. Thats how they will be implementing it in the future. As far as armors fitting to Slider Scaled models. APB had it, and none of the armors clipped, even the form fitting stuff like corsets.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    APB's character creation had so much stuff its difficult to put it into a few words but here's some points.

    - customization of very minute facial details
    - Hair length adjustment for some hairstyles
    - varying degrees of fatness/muscle
    - Large pallet of colors for hair/skin tone

    This is mostly the stuff you see in videos, kind of standard stuff, the level of detail per model was definately above and beyond what you'd normally expect.

    but this one really set it apart.

    - a vector art decal tool which let you make all sorts of shapes and apply them to characters skin directly (Or clothes or cars)

    and this is what you generally dont see much of without looking in game or on their forums but it opened up a whole world of customization, you rarely ever saw clones unless it was deliberate or they were RMT or brand new.

    now would this be alright for ffxiv? haha no of course not. But APB did set the bar pretty high.

    (Edit: I mean the vector art tool, not sliders, sliders would take doing but COULD work.)

    (Double Edit: and believe me the customization options are the ONLY thing i will defend about apb)
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    Last edited by Nephera; 04-05-2011 at 12:21 PM.

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