Square Enix statement

[Reynhart]

The USD is a lot weaker than the Euro right now, and this sucks for Americans travelling abroad, but is nice for Europeans travelling to the States or similar. But Gaming isn't about travelling/tourism.

In terms of purchasing power, the values are a lot closer. Roughly the same demographics can afford a $60 game as a €60 game, or in this case, $130 and €130.

Another one confusing Euro and Pounds, it seems...
£130 is nowhere "close" to €130 or $130

[Snugglebutt]

One is digital, one is physical. They are subject to different rules, laws, tariffs, ... oh yeah I said that already.

Does the pricing difference suck? Yes. Is it completely out of left field with no possible reasoning behind it? No.

Firstly the product is being distributed from the UK and there is no law, tariff or rules in place in the UK to justify the difference between the EU and UK version. So stop saying pointless things in an effort to justify what is not justifiable. The reality is there is no legitimate reason why they are charging UK customers a lot more than the EU counterparts. All SE did by the looks of it was choose a US price tag of 130 and then make it the same number for each currency type not taking exchange rates, economies or distribution into account. It is simply pure greed, incompetence or laziness on SE's part.

[Tiggy]

It is simply pure greed, incompetence or laziness on SE's part.

So basically you're just mad and you don't really know why it happened at all. You have no actual reason or proof behind what happened, and you're doing nothing but lashing out at people who are trying to offer possible reasons why something in the UK might be different than the US when it comes to physical goods. OK then. You're right. I'm the bad guy. Lol.

Be mad at the right people. Not those trying to figure out why it might make sense. Some people attempt to reason through things instead of just having blind rage because you're upset.

[MeiUshu]

Firstly the product is being distributed from the UK and there is no law, tariff or rules in place in the UK to justify the difference between the EU and UK version. So stop saying pointless things in an effort to justify what is not justifiable. The reality is there is no legitimate reason why they are charging UK customers a lot more than the EU counterparts. All SE did by the looks of it was choose a US price tag of 130 and then make it the same number for each currency type not taking exchange rates, economies or distribution into account. It is simply pure greed, incompetence or laziness on SE's part.

is it created in the UK ? or is imported ? because see if it is CREATED in the UK then I would agree with you but if it is imported, as I believe it to be, or better said, the retailers /sellers have received it as import goods then I am afraid you might want to revise your judgement. I went to a site and input some datas....using price reference USD 130.--- and asked it to be calculed in GBP, since using your*logic* just apply an exchange rate right ? answered the various questions and etc..added something like 40USD as shipping and insurance costs final price I got for the same good valued at USD 130.-- was GBP 146.--

Not sure anyone could explain to you anybetter how it goes. Exchange rate is not what defines the price, in between you have lots of things that happens...that makes the final price among those are taxes, VAT, import/export taxes and the like and also, how much the same good or similar good is valued on the country, because see, you cant make the price you want, there are rules even for that to avoid price dumping (so to speak)



Mei

[beowulf81]

Looks like they didn't have a class on debating at that high school, eh?

Attacking the person instead of the argument is poor form when engaged in debate. So too is inventing a straw man you can rail against: in this case, accusing snug of being mad and not knowing why it happened.

Until SE comment on why they priced this the way they did, no one here knows why they did. Including yourself, high school classes and all. Snug can point to corporate greed as a reason for this pricing; given the lack of any other logical motive (and you have not been able to provide any logical motive thus far... Even with your vaunted high school education), it's entirely reasonable to state that this is a lazy cash grab.

Take your own advice chum. Be mad at the right people. Not those telling and giving reason to you as to why this is unethical. Flying into a blind rage and attacking other posters simply because your arguments are terrible (this is what happens when the sum total of your knowledge on the matter comes from some high school class you went to) does not aid rational discussion, it impedes it. If you can't engage in healthy discussion, you know where the door is.

[Tiggy]

I'm not mad at anyone. I'm informing. There are other details that go into this and Mei covered it further than I did quite nicely. Please review how snug got uppity first because I offered an opposing view. You however clearly need to take your own advice. Your entire post disparages me. Not my argument. The irony.

[beowulf81]

If you think mei covered it nicely then you need to have someone else think for you.

But I may have missed where Mei covered the fact that Europeans get it for €50 less than the British, when it will need to be delivered to Europe from the UK. Which was what Snug stated, which had you fly into a blind rage. Can you show me where mei covered that?

[Tiggy]

It's called taxes and tariffs. Come on man. This is literally high school level education here. Which I still find funny you actually attempt to use education as an insult against me. Good luck with that one.

If you think mei covered it nicely then you need to have someone else think for you.

Do you not comprehend how forums work. They are places of conversation. I made a point, and Mei elaborated. I hardly expected or relied on Mei to think for me as you would suggest. You're just getting more and more insulting as you go when you're the one saying things like..

Attacking the person instead of the argument is poor form when engaged in debate

Stop attacking me. Attack my argument. Take your own advice. So far you're nothing but a hypocrite so I advise you to take your own advice and...

If you can't engage in healthy discussion, you know where the door is.

Seriously though. Go look up what Tariff's are. It's extremely relevant.

[Reynhart]

I went to a site and input some datas....using price reference USD 130.--- and asked it to be calculed in GBP, since using your*logic* just apply an exchange rate right ? answered the various questions and etc..added something like 40USD as shipping and insurance costs final price I got for the same good valued at USD 130.-- was GBP 146.--

What is your site saying when you ask to calculate in € with the same questions, and adding the shipping cost for France ?

Or the same questions with the initial price for Standard Edition...which, IIRC is calculated correctly with the exchange rate ?

[beowulf81]

It's called taxes and tariff. Come on man. This is literally high school level education here. Which I still find funny you actually attempt to use education as an insult against me. Good luck with that one.

Stop attacking me. Attack my argument. Take your own advice.

What I find funny is that you refer to this as high school level education when you clearly do not understand it, at all. Take a moment and think about this - tariffs and taxes will be applied when it is shipped to the UK. Further tariffs and taxes will be applied when it is then shipped to the mainland (europe, in case that confused you).

With that in mind; how is that europeans pay almost 50EUR less then the british for the same product?