Square Enix statement

[Ryu_Hayabusaa]

let me make this simple. this is how SE see's it.
SE: Dear so and so, how much do you love our game? ok, buy this. if you dont, buy the standard. we apologize for any inconvenience. thank you.

[beowulf81]

More like:

SE: hey do you love our game? Do you really, really love it? Great! Buy the physical Ce!

... What's that? You're in the UK? Oh. Well, you have to really, really, really, REALLY love our game, because we're charging you Limeys 50% more for it. I know, we're greedy, money grubbing bastards and there's no real justification for this, but hey, you love our game right? So buy the CE for the ridiculous price we're demanding you pay for it, so we know that we can keep doing this to you and you'll just bend over and take it.

Just let it happen

[Jamein]

Why on earth are people comparing minimum wage to try and justify the prices? If you actually think SE's marketing department sat down and for one second considered the minimum wage instead market trends/previous pricing points and a whole host of other reasons you are bat crap crazy.

Minimum wage never even crossed their mind, especially on something that would be considered a luxury item.

[beowulf81]

Looks like they didn't have a class on debating at that high school, eh?

Attacking the person instead of the argument is poor form when engaged in debate. So too is inventing a straw man you can rail against: in this case, accusing snug of being mad and not knowing why it happened.

Until SE comment on why they priced this the way they did, no one here knows why they did. Including yourself, high school classes and all. Snug can point to corporate greed as a reason for this pricing; given the lack of any other logical motive (and you have not been able to provide any logical motive thus far... Even with your vaunted high school education), it's entirely reasonable to state that this is a lazy cash grab.

Take your own advice chum. Be mad at the right people. Not those telling and giving reason to you as to why this is unethical. Flying into a blind rage and attacking other posters simply because your arguments are terrible (this is what happens when the sum total of your knowledge on the matter comes from some high school class you went to) does not aid rational discussion, it impedes it. If you can't engage in healthy discussion, you know where the door is.

[Tiggy]

I'm not mad at anyone. I'm informing. There are other details that go into this and Mei covered it further than I did quite nicely. Please review how snug got uppity first because I offered an opposing view. You however clearly need to take your own advice. Your entire post disparages me. Not my argument. The irony.

[beowulf81]

If you think mei covered it nicely then you need to have someone else think for you.

But I may have missed where Mei covered the fact that Europeans get it for €50 less than the British, when it will need to be delivered to Europe from the UK. Which was what Snug stated, which had you fly into a blind rage. Can you show me where mei covered that?

[Tiggy]

It's called taxes and tariffs. Come on man. This is literally high school level education here. Which I still find funny you actually attempt to use education as an insult against me. Good luck with that one.

If you think mei covered it nicely then you need to have someone else think for you.

Do you not comprehend how forums work. They are places of conversation. I made a point, and Mei elaborated. I hardly expected or relied on Mei to think for me as you would suggest. You're just getting more and more insulting as you go when you're the one saying things like..

Attacking the person instead of the argument is poor form when engaged in debate

Stop attacking me. Attack my argument. Take your own advice. So far you're nothing but a hypocrite so I advise you to take your own advice and...

If you can't engage in healthy discussion, you know where the door is.

Seriously though. Go look up what Tariff's are. It's extremely relevant.

[beowulf81]

It's called taxes and tariff. Come on man. This is literally high school level education here. Which I still find funny you actually attempt to use education as an insult against me. Good luck with that one.

Stop attacking me. Attack my argument. Take your own advice.

What I find funny is that you refer to this as high school level education when you clearly do not understand it, at all. Take a moment and think about this - tariffs and taxes will be applied when it is shipped to the UK. Further tariffs and taxes will be applied when it is then shipped to the mainland (europe, in case that confused you).

With that in mind; how is that europeans pay almost 50EUR less then the british for the same product?

[Tiggy]

That's a good question and still doesn't completely eradicate my point or suggest what I'm saying isn't part of the equation. I'm not a master of the details of your tax system for imports. That doesn't change anything about taxes or tariff's and how they factually work or the reality that this is an imported good that is absolutely subjected to tariffs.

Keep insulting me though. I'm sure that will continue working out for you. Hypocrite.

You're just turning me into your hate mascot because I'm offering possible explanations. Am I Square? Did I set the price? No. Deal with my opinion. Deal with the realities of tariffs. Deal with the realities of complex economies. You railing your anger at me achieves nothing at all especially when it's clear you DON'T have enough information to even tell me I'm factually wrong (seriously the school insults? Lol) or even explain why you think so other than further opinions. People are assuming Square is being lazy. They are assuming Square is being money hungry. All things said without a shred of proof and were said only out of anger and frustration. Meanwhile I try to suggest an actual legal reason this might happen and all I get is anger back in my face. God forbid I try to bring some knowledge and reason to a thread clearly steeped in anger.

Do I KNOW tariff's are the explicitly cause? No. I offered it as a possible explanation. One that is relevant and in part should raise the price at least a little unless Square chooses to eat that cost.

[Shaone]

Keep insulting me though. I'm sure that will continue working out for you. Hypocrite.

Stack Overflow: Infinite Recursion Error.

Let me ask you, if they decided to lock world transfers and charge everyone on Balmung 50% more for the expansion pack, would you appreciate people telling you this is justifiable, because ERP causes higher GM costs?


EDIT:

Also since you keep mentioning tariffs I did a check:

http://www.dutycalculator.com/hs-loo...n-disc-format/

For game imports, the UK/EU tariff rate 0%, for the USA 2.7%.