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    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Leo Strut
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomagi View Post
    please dont derail my thread, trying to figure out my dps issue in t10, not about bullying people in DF
    I don't think he meant to derail things. It's just nigh-impossible to figure out your problem without any sort of actual numbers to look at when there isn't an obvious "Oh, I wasn't supposed to stand in that?" kind of issue going on.
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaft View Post
    Got a parse? Would help to see where your raid DPS is.

    inb4 "parses r illegalz"
    Still don't see em as accurate, run ACT get one result, run APP you get another. Seen a 50-60 DPS varience on MNK between them.

    @ OP, DPS could be watching more for mechanics on last phase and being overly careful instead of pewpewing as much as they should be. A tip for some of em XD Blood 4 blood after they get hit by chain lightning. Then they know they won't be taking any more damage if charge turn.

    To be honest, the DPS checks get tighter as you go further in FCoB. Turn 13 is a real check (fun fight tho).
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Dunno if this has been said yet, but is your scholar dpsing?

    They should be when not looking for preys.
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    valho's Avatar
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    Vita Rena
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    Tonberry
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    Monk Lv 70
    Looks like either there are death during the last phase or dps focusing on mechanic and losing too much dps because of it. One of my earlier clear of t10 with pug, the adds phase was fine, but we still hit enrage due to death in the last phase.
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    kyuven's Avatar
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    Chen Kotomi
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    Adamantoise
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    Archer Lv 90
    It sounds like your group needs to get more comfortable with the mechanics and learn how to compensate for the movement in the last phase. t10 doesn't get easier just because of gear upgrades, it gets easier as people become more comfortable with moving around safely and still managing mechanics.
    Additional questions: What's your group's composition?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis_Nephthys View Post
    See SE? This group is struggling with DPS, and a parser would probably allow them to fix their issue VERY quickly.
    But no, bads in dungeons might get bullied. From personal parsers. That only the player would see.
    Nevermind the fact that if the DPS is bad enough to get "bullied" for it, everyone else already knows the bad is bad.
    LOL plz SE. Parsers plz. PS4.
    Plz
    Actually since we know they're hitting the "minimum" for the add phase transition, a parse would need to be "tiered", i.e. you'd need to fire it up after the last add phase to get an accurate representation of what the numbers are.
    A flat parse of the whole fight would give too broad a picture.
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    Last edited by kyuven; 03-18-2015 at 12:00 PM.

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    KyrsIsley's Avatar
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    Kyrs Isley
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    Durandal
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Actually since we know they're hitting the "minimum" for the add phase transition, a parse would need to be "tiered", i.e. you'd need to fire it up after the last add phase to get an accurate representation of what the numbers are.
    A flat parse of the whole fight would give too broad a picture.
    This is entirely possible through multiple ways.
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    FoxyAreku's Avatar
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Two black mages is kinda bad, but certainly shouldn't be hurting your ability to clear T10 very much.

    Are you using melee LB when the gauge fills up the second time? Cos you should be.

    Otherwise, get one of your black mages to change classes. That'll help, assuming they can perform just as well your group dps will be a lot better.
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    Last edited by FoxyAreku; 03-18-2015 at 12:30 PM.

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    Kyomagi's Avatar
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    Niko Zimmershade
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Two black mages is kinda bad, but certainly shouldn't be hurting your ability to clear T10 very much.

    Are you using melee LB when the gauge fills up the second time? Cos you should be.

    Otherwise, get one of your black mages to change classes. That'll help, assuming they can perform just as well your group dps will be a lot better.
    omg three straight posts >.<

    but ya, i am actually gearing my ninja for t10. This group is my old FC and good friends of mine, so i dont mind going nin. my fc group im the only BLM

    but i agree, i have mentioned that we only need 1 caster dps in t10
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Will agree with some of the posters - if you're getting the two add phases down at those stacks, it feels like you're not DPSing hard enough during the none add phases, specifically the final phase where it's most mechanic heavy.

    Do you time your phase transitions? About how long into the fights are you hitting the first and second add phase?
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    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Instead of asking about stacks (they're running two black mages - it'd be easy to push adds), can you tell us how many rings are left after the last set of adds?

    Many groups I see approaching enrage have center + 1-2 rings left when the lady add dies. Ideally 2 should be your MINIMUM.
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