Could the New Summoner Limit Break be EPIC Summon Attacks? (or, OMG FF XV's Ramuh!)

[Kiara]

To: Yoshi P and the Dev Team,

It was mentioned by Yoshi P that Summoner (along with many jobs) will be getting their own Job Limit Breaks in Heavensward.

There has been much feedback early in 2.0 Beta and beyond for Summoner, and the tiny size of the Summoned Egis (and their general job feel).

I realize the Dev Feedback in Beta was that with the amount of Players that could have their Summons (Egis) out and running around town, that it would be too much stress on the game / servers to have High Detailed, Large Summons. It's unfortunate, but understandable. But ultimately the issue is that:

The Summoner in this game feels nothing like the classic "Final Fantasy Summoners" of the past. When you think of all the awesome Summoners and Summons from past games, you think of the characters like Rydia (FF IV) and Yuna (FF X), etc.





If you ask any random gamer on the street about what a "Final Fantasy Summon" is like, they'll tell you about the "epic attacks" from Ifrit, Shiva, Bahamut, Knights of the Round, etc.

So perhaps a way to reconcile the discrepancy (although it'd happen very rarely):

* Would the Dev Team consider having the New Summoner Limit Break in 3.0 Heavensward be like a Primal's (Summons) "Epic Attack"?

I know you'd have to make a new Limit Break Animation for each Primal (Egi) but it'd be SO worth it! You have the 3D Models already. You just need to customize the VFX and Animation for it.

For those that haven't seen it, Square's Final Fantasy XV has shown off RAMUH and it looks AMAZING!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK3HNm6wH0c&t=75


Please consider something more epic for 3.0 (as a Limit Break). That way most of the time it's still tiny Egis and about DOTS (sigh), but at least the Limit Break would give a nod to the Classic Final Fantasy Summoner idea of the past.

Thanks!

[MageBlack]

GF Summons or Knights of the Round. Please, dont do this to FFXIV.

On the other side, it sounds like what you are talking about is going to the the FC summoning system.

[Kiara]

Of course I'm not asking for the *literal* "Knights of the Round" 10 Minute attack from FF 7. I'm saying nothing *evokes* the idea or feel of "Final Fantasy Summon" from the current job. At all.

The current in-game attacks from the actual Primal EX Battles are much better than what Summoners have now, and they're done quickly (within SECONDS).

[Kerrigen]

The Ultimate Summon we deserve:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSt8jVpC7HM

[Pterois]

wow... just completely blown away by that ramuh summon on FFXV

[Codek]

Hey SE, I got a new Cash shop idea that will make you loads of $$$!

[MageBlack]

Of course I'm not asking for the *literal* "Knights of the Round" 10 Minute attack from FF 7. I'm saying nothing *evokes* the idea or feel of "Final Fantasy Summon" from the current job. At all.

The current in-game attacks from the actual Primal EX Battles are much better than what Summoners have now, and they're done quickly (within SECONDS).

What you are asking for does sound a lot like what they are doing for the FC summoning system. It was something they talked about a looooong time ago and, as far as I can tell, is slated for Heavensward content. Either right away or through a .X patch. To recap what I know of the system, there will be roaming primals, kinda like Odin used to be and Behemoth, that can be taken down by a FC. Once the FC takes it down, they now have the ability for a one time summon of the Primal at full power. First they have to gain an affinity with the Primal then they can use it. if it is not used within 2weeks(?) it is again released, until then no other FC has access to summon the Primal. When it is used (example was Ifrit) the skies will turn dark, the sun will burn and the whole of Eorzea will know it has been used and is now released once again for another FC to capture it.

That is what I seem to recall and it is, again, old information. Hopefully what they are working on will at least come close to what it sounded like.

[Alberel]

A fairly easy implementation of the SMN LB would be to summon the full version of an actual primal (based on which egi the SMN has out at the time) simply to do their signature attack as in their trial. All the assets are already there so compared to the other jobs it would be fairly simple and is more in line with what a lot of summoners actually want from the job.

They could, of course, also give us a unique summon just for the LB but that would require a quest to unlock it in my opinion, since all of our summons are obtained via defeating and syncing with the aether of that primal.

[HeavensSword]

[Quintalian]

If SMN gained Grand Summon as their LB3, based on which Egi was currently summoned, it might finally satiate the intense hunger for bigger, more impressive summons. (Without an Egi out perhaps it'd be randomized?) There was supposed to be a way to do it, and it still hasn't happened. Grand Summon would be a fantastic way for the devs to follow through on that.

Alternately, perhaps there would be a Carbuncle LB3? It could do Meteorite, even though that may be similar to the BLM LB3. Ruby Light would be fitting as a Carbuncle skill even though that's traditionally a buff, not an attack.

What about SCH, on the other side of the coin? I'd put money on their LB3 being related to Helios, the third sibling of Eos and Selene in myth, though again Carbuncle could work. I mean, many of you SCH and SMN would go for some way to use Carbuncle again, right?