So...about Arcanist

[MXMoondoggie]

No real need for it not like it takes that long to hit level 30 and get your Healer job if you want to do that. Allowing an ACN to heal just feels like a shortcut to leveling for them because they are only viable as Healers up to a certain point.

[Nyalia]

ACN pets can't heal. The biggest thing an SCH brings to the party pre-30 is the fairy, who is a good enough healer to solo-heal pre-30 dungeons. An ACN would be hard-pressed to heal on their own in the 25-29 range. An SCH with no fairy would similarly have trouble healing in the 25-29 range, but that's why they have the fairy. And, as pointed out, how would they be stopped from queuing as a healer in post-30 content? Can you imagine an ACN queuing as a healer for, say, WoD just to troll? It would let people queue as healers and then play as DPS, which is bad. As pointed out above, ACNs can't wear healer equipment after a certain point when healer and caster split off. The classes on gear become CNJ/WHM/SCH for healer gear and THM/BLM/ACN/SMN for caster gear. For books, only SCH can wield healer books, and ACN/SMN can wield caster books (apart from the SMN relic, which is SMN only).

Like another said, BLM and PLD can cross-class physic/cure respectively, but would make terrible healers. Allowing ACN to queue as healer in level 50 content but not a PLD to do so too is totally inconsistent. (You can argue that not all THM/BLMs have Physic, but all PLDs must get access to Cure to get their class crystal, so you can't say that not all PLDs have Cure. And, you can change cross-class skills mid-dungeon.)

[Aeyis]

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What about a conjurer signing as healer for the harder content? Or any level 50, with the way everyone likes to speed run. The conjurer would have zero cooldowns to use on a pull. That's no different from an arcanist signing as healer, and its currently possible to do.


Before level 30 THM/ACN can easily heal dungeons, so I too find it odd that they can't queue as healer for said dungeons.
Trolling higher level content is easily prevented by only having the option to sign as healer for <30 content.

It would let people queue as healers and then play as DPS, which is bad.

Which people already do anyway. I suspect over half of the DF scholars spend more time dpsing then healing, since they are well aware you can't see what they are doing.
And plenty of white mages just don't care.

[Spoekes]

Before level 30 THM/ACN can easily heal dungeons, so I too find it odd that they can't queue as healer for said dungeons.
Trolling higher level content is easily prevented by only having the option to sign as healer for <30 content.

I would guess every class/job is limited to one role, for reasons of balancing and simplicity.
You'd still need a way to choose wether heal or dps when you queue up.
Short put, they would need to rework DF ,which might not be as trivial as one might think and they might think the time is better spent somewhere else.

Which people already do anyway. I suspect over half of the DF scholars spend more time dpsing then healing, since they are well aware you can't see what they are doing.
And plenty of white mages just don't care.

Whats your point here? Can't see what they're doing?
Last time I checked healers contributing some DPS while keeping the party alive are a good thing.

[Nyalia]

What about a conjurer signing as healer for the harder content? Or any level 50, with the way everyone likes to speed run. The conjurer would have zero cooldowns to use on a pull. That's no different from an arcanist signing as healer, and its currently possible to do.

I disagree with this statement. ACNs have no healing skills beyond Physick and Resurrection, even at 50. CNJs have plenty of healing skills beyond Cure - Esuna, Raise, Medica, Cure 2, aspected Stoneskin, Cure 3, Medica 2. The only healing skills (not counting CDs) a CNJ would lose are Regen and Benediction. While those two are very useful, you can't say that a CNJ at 50 is "the same" as an ACN at 50 as far as healing ability goes. Plus, there's the gear thing - ACNs at 50 cannot wear endgame healer gear. CNJs at 50 can. Gear does matter.

Before level 30 THM/ACN can easily heal dungeons, so I too find it odd that they can't queue as healer for said dungeons.
Trolling higher level content is easily prevented by only having the option to sign as healer for <30 content.

I'd guess the reason it's prevented is simply consistency, especially around level 30. Allowing an SCH-to-be to queue as a healer at 29 brings up the weirdness of leveling to 30 while in the dungeon and how the game handles it. And then what about ACNs who queue at 29 and then level to 30 before their duty pops? Sure, there are solutions to these things, but the more complex the situation, the more coding is required. Personally, I don't think the benefit outweighs the cost. And, again, SCHs have fairies that make them just as good as CNJs at healing low level content. Without the fairy, they're much worse, but that's why they have the fairy. The fairy heals more than the SCH at low levels, so an ACN would have less than half the healing power of an SCH.

Which people already do anyway. I suspect over half of the DF scholars spend more time dpsing then healing, since they are well aware you can't see what they are doing.
And plenty of white mages just don't care.

Except while they are DPSing, their fairy is healing. So, they are fulfilling the healer role, even if they are dealing damage at the same time. This would not be true for an int-spec ACN. Note that Cleric Stance does not work well in reverse as it gives a healing potency penalty while active.

[AskaRay]

Let's try doing a premade group with one tank, two dps, and a non-soulstone ACN in Aurum Vale.
Because that's what would happen.