Who do you think will get the Black mage job? CON or THM

[AmyRae]

Been preaching this since the beginning, yet it falls on deaf ears, so you, like me, are wasting your breath. Once people get an idea in their heads, they ignore all logic and fact.

Part of the reason this information is released early at all is to get discussion and feedback on where they are taking things in the future. People's opinions have swayed the developers in the past. You can take an active roll in shaping the game even now.

What the developers gave us wasn't a set-in-stone prophecy, and it's not worth being fixated on that. What they've told is only the direction they're thinking of going in, but they can still nudge the steering a bit if there are some good ideas that surface.

This isn't about being right or wrong, it's about what you think makes sense and what you think would be fun!

[DNO]

It takes a special kind of genius to assume that THM must get BLM if CON gets WHM, when such a suggestion is not found in evidence in any way.

I will agree that CON is clearly getting WHM, and it is clearly going to be one of the first jobs released due to two major points:

1. CON recently received multiple tiers of Raise spells as well as exclusive rights to AoE Heals - effectively making it the healer of choice.
2. Jobs are being released for the express purpose of effective party-play, in which case a healer job is necessary and thus must be included in the first release.

So everyone can agree that it is effectively definite that WHM is among the first jobs to be released, and that it is most likely CON that will receive said job.

BLM, however, is only confirmed to be a finalized job name. Not confirmed in any way to be among the first release, and suggesting as much does not satisfy any need in a party environment as DDs are not particularly lacking.

Given the popularity of this thread, I would request the OP take advantage of this and post explicitly what the known facts are exactly - and how the released job names are not necessarily the first batch of jobs we are getting.

This way people can make educated guesses based on what little info we have, and we have less geniuses.

i do not understand why you are trolling this topic so much. its a GUESS thread. EVERYONE is not even listening to you because your trying to kill everyones guesses. We are GUESSING pleae understand that. Now chill out.

[NoctisUmbra]

i do not understand why you are trolling this topic so much. its a GUESS thread. EVERYONE is not even listening to you because your trying to kill everyones guesses. We are GUESSING pleae understand that. Now chill out.

lol I haven't trolled a thread in my life. That word is abused and misused so much these days >_>

Take a look at the post I responded to. I though you and I had already agreed that I wasn't trying to kill any guesses, but rather trying to get the known facts out there clearly so people can stop thinking what they heard as a rumor is a fact.


Oh and here's a quote of mine from another related thread where I basically wrote out what I expect the job system to be like. Might serve to be helpful:

I initially thought Jobs would be unlocked in such fashion, but seeing as how it has been confirmed that at least the first set of 7 Jobs to be released will each be unlocked by one of the 7 classes with only a level requirement from said class, a lot of those go out the window.

Primarily it was confirmed that Paladin, for example, would be unlocked by a quest one can undertake with the requirement of being a Gladiator at a specific level that if I remember correctly has not been disclosed - but it is less than 50. It was also confirmed that the other 6 initial jobs will have similar requirements for their respective classes.

One thing, however, is they did mention looking into the idea of jobs based on a combination of classes - with respective level requirements - that raises the question: what weapon will the job use? The given example was CON Lv. X and THM Lv. Y to unlock the Red Mage Job.

Essentially those are what we have been told from the devs so far.

The way I see the Job system based on the information disclosed thus far;

Classes will represent weapon proficiency, whereas Jobs will be the clearly defined roles of a player. In example, a gladiator is someone proficient (high level) at the use of swords/daggers and thus is very skullful (has learned a number skills from that class) however he undertakes a quest in which he learns the art of being a Paladin. The Paladin, itself, can be considered a build separate from the Gladiator - however one is able to attain that honor only after reaching a certain proficiency with the Paladin's weapon-of-choice.

If you take this logic and apply it to most other classic Final Fantasy jobs you will clearly see which class alone they will stem from. However, most does not cut it. As we were given the example of Red Mage, simply going by what weapon a Red Mage uses is not enough to connect it to a class - and thus it should require proficiency in a variety of weapons.

Therefore, when I imagine a system with the flexibility to encompass both types of requirements I think of one where either:

• Jobs, like classes, will have their own job-specific weapons
• The player, once having equipped a job, will have access to more than a single type of weapon as permitted by the job

I expect a great many things from Jobs!

[DNO]

It says they are planned and decided, but it doesn't say WHEN those jobs are going to be seen lol. I want something that says "BLM is coming in 1.20, BRD is 1.21, etc" (or something to that extent)

EDIT: That was my original concern, I wasn't implying that BLM is not confirmed, I hope that's not what you guys thought I meant lol. I know it's confirmed, I'm just raising the point that SE has not specified when we get each job.

Now they have and BLM is one of them. I told you you do not plan a job, make gear for it and announce it in the forums just for it to come out never or later.

[DNO]

It takes a special kind of genius to assume that THM must get BLM if CON gets WHM, when such a suggestion is not found in evidence in any way.

I will agree that CON is clearly getting WHM, and it is clearly going to be one of the first jobs released due to two major points:

1. CON recently received multiple tiers of Raise spells as well as exclusive rights to AoE Heals - effectively making it the healer of choice.
2. Jobs are being released for the express purpose of effective party-play, in which case a healer job is necessary and thus must be included in the first release.

So everyone can agree that it is effectively definite that WHM is among the first jobs to be released, and that it is most likely CON that will receive said job.

BLM, however, is only confirmed to be a finalized job name. Not confirmed in any way to be among the first release, and suggesting as much does not satisfy any need in a party environment as DDs are not particularly lacking.

Given the popularity of this thread, I would request the OP take advantage of this and post explicitly what the known facts are exactly - and how the released job names are not necessarily the first batch of jobs we are getting.

This way people can make educated guesses based on what little info we have, and we have less geniuses.

So many fails here lol. agan you do not release names just to leave it for the next round. SE never announces things that we are not gonna see soon when it comes to MMO updates.

BLM is coming in the first wave.

[DNO]

Looks like my prediction was right THM BLM baby!!!