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    MT and OT gear sets?

    Hey so I mostly play PLD but this goes for War too lately I've been running a lot of WOD and some ST and I've noticed the bosses, with a few exceptions, really only need one tank not 3

    So that lead me to wonder should I have 2 gear sets? One with gear of fending and one with gear of striking (I think for strength) would the differences mean anything as it would just be jewelry?
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    Supply Demand
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    For anything besides coil or a challenging Primal, you should be using full STR accessories on any tank in any situation, to be honest.

    My WAR uses all pure STR accessories except one i110 penta-melded vit/str accessory for everything (including T13). You really don't need that much VIT in either of those. maybe 7.5k hp as a PLD and 10k as a WAR.
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    If your left-side gear is content current there's hardly ever any reason to wear fending accessories. Just Coil...maybe The Cloud if you don't trust your healers, maybe the current EX primal. Even in those cases I never have full fending accs.

    So get some of that strength stuff. Swap your bonus points too!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbstr View Post
    If your left-side gear is content current there's hardly ever any reason to wear fending accessories. Just Coil...maybe The Cloud if you don't trust your healers, maybe the current EX primal. Even in those cases I never have full fending accs.

    So get some of that strength stuff. Swap your bonus points too!!!
    How current does my left side have to be? For instance my left side is almost entirely Demon gear save the iron works head and noct belt plus high allagan trousers and just now I hit 10k with all i110 VIT acessories with my new judgement ring of fending. Does it matter which plat we use in regards to fending and slaying? I was gonna mix and match depending on initial secondary it came with like DET or Crit.
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    So for example if my left sides all like 110+ (I have a mix of ironwork and noct atm) of fending I should be going strength on the right huh?
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    Rika Shinozaki'
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    It really depends, I never liked going full str, always went full vit, because you never know what you're going to get in each instance. You just might end up being the only person who can tank, but you won't know that until after the pull. Full vit is unneeded in a lot of circumstances, but gives wiggle room when you don't know what you're going in with.

    I now use only crafted and fully over melded 110 accessries, break the 9k suggested for fcob, and have plenty of str to go with it

    also, it kills me inside to see WAR going full vit. They have a boost to hp and healing received for a reason, so they can wear str without getting dangerously low in most content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monochromicorn View Post
    You just might end up being the only person who can tank, but you won't know that until after the pull
    What I said holds true for OT or MT, you just don't need to wear fending gear except in the hardest content or if you have bad left-side stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rbstr View Post
    What I said holds true for OT or MT, you just don't need to wear fending gear except in the hardest content or if you have bad left-side stuff.
    -_-

    Not sure if you read the entire post or not, but I clearly states it's not the required/recommended health, but what a random healer can handle. Not every healer is good enough to make it through coil, and even being 110+ won't stop them from being too bad to keep you alive. I had full vit in ifrit hm, no noon bonus, and (this particular run) I survived only because of hallowed ground. Unless you have a pre-made, I would suggest avoiding full str during an encounter as pld
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    Keep in mind a full strength build tank in sword oath will pull hate off a lesser geared tank with shield oath/defiance up. Especially if the MT ignored getting crit/det.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    Keep in mind a full strength build tank in sword oath will pull hate off a lesser geared tank with shield oath/defiance up. Especially if the MT ignored getting crit/det.
    ^ I completely forgot about this, remember this. with my penta melded accessories, I have people In similar, if not better il for wep, light farming for zetas, and more 13p than I have, but they have fending accessories. Each time, it was a back and forth with hate, I'm in sword oath ripping hate off a war in defiance. A pld with str is no joke, tank stance or not. If you go str as a paladin, watch your aggro, you just might find yourself as Mt when you don't have the health that your team will need you too.
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