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    I think its disgusting and no matter how much I want to play the expansion I refuse to pay more for that than the original game, or without any efforts to convert the currency. No dragons for me

    Edit: would like to add that when other games release expansions or DLC packs that add content, I *rarely* see it above £20 - maybe £25 if its like gaining a whole new game. Yet is 39.99 for PS4
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    Boycott the collectors edition in the UK, plain and simple.

    Its £40 more over here than in the US,
    This is price discrimination.
    I'd could buy another triple A PS4 game for that much.

    And its not even worth it at £90 honestly.

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    I can't believe SE hasn't made any statements about this situation yet, doesn't have to be a forum mod. I'm sure they're watching this thread and know about the situation, the least they can do is acknowledge it instead of letting it brew and piss people off. Even a half assed excuse would be better than the silence they're currently giving people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    I can't believe SE hasn't made any statements about this situation yet, doesn't have to be a forum mod. I'm sure they're watching this thread and know about the situation, the least they can do is acknowledge it instead of letting it brew and piss people off. Even a half assed excuse would be better than the silence they're currently giving people.
    Forum mods actually Replying to threads? More chance of winning the jumbo cactpot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    As you say, the people moaning about USD, AUD and GBP price differences aren't going to get anywhere, there's no comeback against that outside of SE miraculously having a change of heart as it's just not something that's regulated.

    However, the MGS V comparison isn't as relevant as you think as there is a key difference you are missing:

    If I don't like the fact that I'm having to pay £99.99 to pre order MGS V from Game or whomever in the UK, the EU single market means that I would have been well within my rights to have just preordered it from Amazon.fr instead and thus would have paid €99.99 aka 35% or so less.
    Again I was merely pointed out that these companies not just SE are selling stuff $ to £

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    SE's store doesn't allow this, instead choosing to enforce that price hike on me whether I like it or not with no option or alternative available despite the fact that other people within the EU are buying from exactly the same store and depot at a significantly cheaper rate.
    Yea which disgusts us all.

    It would be interesting to see how they control the market later when other retailers accepts pre-orders too as we were all informed that limited no. quantities will be distributed via retailers
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    Ye know what I"ll concede, I see the symbol and first thing that popped into my head was the Euro, I didn't realize you were talking about the Pound however I also think that you would of been better off saying 130 Euro=/= 130 British Pound because that serves as a better representation of the issue compared to using the american dollar. It would of been easier to understand the plight you were having if you had explain not only the price difference between the pound and the dollar but also the pound and the euro.

    With that said I honestly think this is just a case of standards set by countries since the Euro appears to have a stronger pull in terms of people who use it compared to those that use the Pound SE seems to have adapted to using the Euro over the pound.

    Here's a question. the way VAT works, if I"m reading this correctly, that means at the supposed base value of 87.95 with the added 20% from VAT it would come out to 105.54?

    Well I think I may have found a potential issue with the reason behind the price.

    http://www.gamerlaw.co.uk/2014/a-pra...content-sales/

    So if I'm reading this correctly, digital content adds to the price of a product? You might be asking well what does this have to do with the CE? It has quite a bit to do with the CE, so even though you are buying a physical copy of the game, you are technically still receiving "digital" content in the form of the early access and the codes to obtain in game items.

    Since this is something which only started in January of course it's going to have some rough patches but judging from the situation it is a possibility as to why pricing is as messy as it is.

    So for all intent purposes I can see the desire to have an official statement over this however looking at the situation now it appears all this could be due to the growing pains of a change in policies that of course is going to cause issues as they move ahead and properly implement it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Ye know what I"ll concede, I see the symbol and first thing that popped into my head was the Euro, I didn't realize you were talking about the Pound however I also think that you would of been better off saying 130 Euro=/= 130 British Pound because that serves as a better representation of the issue compared to using the american dollar. It would of been easier to understand the plight you were having if you had explain not only the price difference between the pound and the dollar but also the pound and the euro. With that said I honestly think this is just a case of standards set by countries since the Euro appears to have a stronger pull in terms of people who use it compared to those that use the Pound SE seems to have adapted to using the Euro over the pound.

    Here's a question. the way VAT works, if I"m reading this correctly, that means at the supposed base value of 87.95 with the added 20% from VAT it would come out to 105.54?

    Well I think I may have found a potential issue with the reason behind the price.

    http://www.gamerlaw.co.uk/2014/a-pra...content-sales/

    So if I'm reading this correctly, digital content adds to the price of a product? You might be asking well what does this have to do with the CE? It has quite a bit to do with the CE, so even though you are buying a physical copy of the game, you are technically still receiving "digital" content in the form of the early access and the codes to obtain in game items.

    Since this is something which only started in January of course it's going to have some rough patches but judging from the situation it is a possibility as to why pricing is as messy as it is.

    So for all intent purposes I can see the desire to have an official statement over this however looking at the situation now it appears all this could be due to the growing pains of a change in policies that of course is going to cause issues as they move ahead and properly implement it.
    that is fine and all but VAT is at 20% which your right is £105.54 so that means if they charged £105.99 or £109.99 just to cover little tidbits it would be right(nothing on that link says they need to charge extra for digital content but that all digital content must be charged the right VAT depending on country however the UK Price is still at least £20 more than it really should be), that is why all these people raging it should be £87 are so far off the mark. The 130 euros isn't probably what people think it is and could be charging VAT at checkout so its probably more in line with the UK price and if it is the whole of europe is getting shafted pretty much.

    Can someone who has pre-ordered in europe other than UK please confirm, is the 129.99 euros a set price for everyone or does it charge VAT at checkout.
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    Please stop with the VAT thing.

    Every country in the EU single market pays VAT, the lowest is 17% and the highest is a whopping 27%.

    VAT is NOT a factor in this

    VAT is included in the price in all retail sales to consumers across Europe, I don't believe any member states operate like the US in applying sales tax at the checkout?
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    People need to stop making up excuses when it is blatantly obvious SE never took into account any regional or national differences, if they did it would not be 130 in the US / 130 in the EU / 130 in the UK. They picked a price and used the same price in all three, merely changing the currency symbol between each.

    SE was lazy or incompetent and as a result UK customers are getting screwed over, my only hope now is that not many people will buy the physical CE in the UK and just stick to the digital version because if SE does not sell many physical CE's in the UK then maybe they will wake up and re-evaluate the extortionate price they put on the UK version.
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    As a quick reference to the US v UK pricing, here are the links:

    https://store.na.square-enix.com/pro...r-s-edition-pc = $129.99

    https://store.eu.square-enix.com/eme...-s-Edition.php = £129.99
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