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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Well whatever the case is SE needs to do it right. None of this "We're going to make the current stage easier come next patch, So the Relic will always be looked at as trash". Players put tons of time and gil into these fully upgraded Relics and they are 2nd to raid weapons (currently they are on par). Things really need to change come 3.0.

    There is no reason why Relic weapons cannot compete with raid weapons every time a new tier is introduced.
    Simple New relics quest = alexander raid. Easy mode you get 5 ilvl lower and hardmode you get 5 more ilvl with a little better stats. Maybe this version would only be the one that would glow but that asking to much. SE want to make every baby player happy and not rage quit over something as dumb as a glow.
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    Spawnie Lionheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caoihmin View Post
    Can you always modify stats with a new sphere scroll? Just got my Yoichi today but hope once I get the Gil I can add more to my desired stats.
    im pretty sure you can will take the alexandrite n materia for each 1 i assume
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  3. #13
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    Ok thank you very much
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    The only thing they have said, is that 'it won't be a complete waste' and that could range from giving you an advantage in the new relic, to a new hat or a minion. We know nothing basically.
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    My personal suspicion on the plans for the relic in Heavensward is that we can start from the 'rename' point of the relic, which means that people who have a Zeta can sit back and relax for the first step while newer players get to first work for their new relic (Excalibur, Nirvana etc.) and then the Zeta light grind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Simple New relics quest = alexander raid. Easy mode you get 5 ilvl lower and hardmode you get 5 more ilvl with a little better stats. Maybe this version would only be the one that would glow but that asking to much. SE want to make every baby player happy and not rage quit over something as dumb as a glow.
    why would they put relics weapons as a part of raid lol relic weapons are intended for those who dont wanna raid forcing them to raid will kill the game asap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Simple New relics quest = alexander raid. Easy mode you get 5 ilvl lower and hardmode you get 5 more ilvl with a little better stats. Maybe this version would only be the one that would glow but that asking to much. SE want to make every baby player happy and not rage quit over something as dumb as a glow.
    That was the exact opposite of the intent with relic weapons. That would actually turn them into another raid weapon, defeating the grinding completely. Not everybody wants to raid, and nobody wants to wait until absolutely everything is unlocked and turned to trash to get the next level weapon. By forcing people to raid for a relic, you eliminate the player base that just wants fun. Having to wait months for times to be added to other raids like CT style, is insulting, they pay to play just as much as you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Well whatever the case is SE needs to do it right. None of this "We're going to make the current stage easier come next patch, So the Relic will always be looked at as trash". Players put tons of time and gil into these fully upgraded Relics and they are 2nd to raid weapons (currently they are on par). Things really need to change come 3.0.

    There is no reason why Relic weapons cannot compete with raid weapons every time a new tier is introduced.
    "On par?" You can't put the desired off stats on raid weapons. Zeta weapons are BiS if done right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hieral View Post
    "On par?" You can't put the desired off stats on raid weapons. Zeta weapons are BiS if done right.
    Right. Relic weapon has more off stats points. With same stats than raid weapon, the relic win.
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    The relic weapon is positioned as a long-term customizable grind reward. It is not a raid weapon. So most likely it will not require any raid content. As for old relic, so what if it got nerfed. If you're against nerfing old relic content, then you should also be against nerfing any old raiding content, i.e. echo in Coils and Trials.

    Just remember, this game is designed to have a very short update cycle, so it was never designed to have long-lasting content. The idea was always to push more and more people to the latest content, meaning nerfing old content.

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    Lastly, the Final Coil was released in 2.4, the Zeta was released in 2.51, a whole patch difference. It's not fair to say that the Zeta is BiS without considering the fact that you could have had the Dreadwyrm weapons a patch ago.
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