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    Machinist Lv 60

    Chocobo Dash needs a nerf

    It's come to a point where all other abilities are inferior to Dash. It helps you burst out of tricky situations (Briars/Shock/Silence), gets refreshed by Aether, useable when you're completely exhausted.

    In fact, you're at a complete disadvantage without it. Was in a few matches just now where everyone had Dash. One person commented at the end of the match 'Wow everyone's strong.'

    Really? Strength is measured by you having Dash and getting refreshed during the match? So what if you steal a Stamina Potion, so what if you reflect a Frenzy? So what if you lock down a competitor's items? Heavy/Frenzy resistance? Laughable.

    Just hold down W, Dash, Head Start while you're at it. Get a single stamina potion/Aether and you'll essentially sprint from start to end.

    This is just Dash I, giving you 1 sec of win. Imagine Dash III giving you 3 seconds of burst each time you use it. 3 seconds!
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    Last edited by Aphel; 03-05-2015 at 10:34 PM.

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    Crimson Bloodrose
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    Basically yes. The perfect chocobo imo is Head Start + Choco Dash III. You get so far from the group the first 5 seconds you are practically unreachable the rest of the race and have absolute control over the coffers that keep popping. In one of my gen chocobos (I think it was 3), I had head start + choco dash I. Kept winning no matter what, it was rather silly, but fun.
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Cure is superior to dash.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    absolute control over the coffers that keep popping.
    Actually, if you are too fast you will reach coffer locations before they have spawned, thus missing out on the item. In less worse case scenarios you wont be able to decide if you want it before reaching the location.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    Cure is superior to dash.
    Sorry but Cure III's 9% stamina recovery is nothing compared to a 3sec dash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphel View Post
    Sorry but Cure III's 9% stamina recovery is nothing compared to a 3sec dash.
    That's what I thought, untill I compared the tireless buff to the sprint buff, or even the stamina pot. Untill you get to the point where you can sprint from start to finish without going out of stamina, stamina restores tend to be superior.
    What if you get hit by a meteor? Or a heavy after your sprint. While theres certainly some items better then others, I personally don't find any too broken.

    There's multiple way/builds to win a match after all.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 03-06-2015 at 07:49 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Agree with multiple builds, at least for now.

    My current chocobo has heavily built towards speed. I actually use sprint shoes as a means to rest, not so much to speed up. It also burns through stamina like crazy when going at max speed. My biggest issue with it is stamina. I have to budget it very carefully, and if I get hit with anything that reduces my stamina, or a bacchus' water, I'm done.

    Stamina tablet is currently one of my favorite items. I like sprint shoes, which are the same thing as choco dash III, but they're not as useful to me as stamina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    There's multiple way/builds to win a match after all.
    That's what I thought as well. At first I refused to believe that Dash is the IWIN ability. Pedigree after pedigree, trust me I've gone through Steal III/Cure III/Shock III/Dash I on my Chocobos and went through so many races. There is only so much you can do when your opponent is 4-5 seconds ahead of the pack while the rest have to deal with in-cluster fighting + Briars. A few of these guys I've met don't even bother about picking up powerups.

    In a short courses like Sagolii, these guys just plain ignore powerups and laugh all the way to the finishing line while you have to crack your brains remembering who has Briar, who to steal, who to reflect from, etc. Even in Costa where the initial 1/3 of the racecourse is a bottleneck, getting ahead of the cluster means you don't have to deal with all those nonsense that the jockeys throw at each other.

    Yes there's so many ways to win a match. It just so happens that the one with Dash + Headstart wins it the easiest.
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    Last edited by Aphel; 03-06-2015 at 11:58 AM.

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    I'm inclined to agree,dash is absolutely superior to any other choco ability.I have used it also,and the single chocobo i had it on never lost a single race due to aethers refreshing it.

    I can only see two "fixes" either make it non-refreshable,or remove it completely.
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    I admit it can be sort of broken when used in combined with aethers and head start, but dashing is currently the most viable counter to briar and briar is pretty broken as well. You basically cannot get away from it in time even if you know it is coming, a lot of the races have cramped paths as well, and if you get hit even once you usually are screwed, get hit for full duration or multiple briars and you are basically out of the race entirely and might as well just afk till you pass finish line cause you ain't gonna make it. Sooooo many briars appear in the item chests too most of the time, its like one of the higher % items it seems.

    Unfortunately they made the races similar to mario kart stuff lol where certain items/abilities are way better than others. If you get like Heavy Resistance 10%, or Choco Reflect rolled for your ability it is like having one banana peel item to use during the race and it isn't even gonna hit anyone but the silly computer AI lol.
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    Murah Jhida
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    screw it, literally add a blue shell that outright stuns the top racer and an aoe around them. make it pop like choco meteor where it becomes very common if the race is too disparate
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    video games are bad

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