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  1. #31
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramien View Post
    On the other hand, melee and ranged DPS LBs are almost always non-necessary. Most of the times they get used, it's because they're available, but not because they need to be used. They're routine; something to push the numbers along a little faster.

    The tank and healer LBs, though, if used when needed, are life-savers, literally. They can atone for a lot of sins committed early in the fight. I would prefer to see the healer's in particular get a bit of a boost at lower levels, though. (If things are bad enough you'll need it, someone's already on the ground, most likely.)
    I find that 99% of the time, DPS LB's aren't needed... in fact the LB is only being used "cause it's there" and it knocks the last 5% off the boss, which saves an entire 30 seconds from the run, oh ~yayy~~~.

    The healer/tank LB on the other hand I've only ever seen used once. Mainly because the only time it's ever been used is when the Tank has been killed, and just revived as the rest of the party dies.

    Most appropriate use of any LB? That 20 second countdown with the Ultima Weapon. Worst use of LB: Entire party has full HP and the boss has 10% of it's HP left and has no party-killer moves.
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  2. #32
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    firstsin's Avatar
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    Alkaid Gainsborough
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    What I hate the most about heal lb3 is that if you are alive the lb only restores your HP. Everyone else revived get full HP and MP.

    If I know heal lb3 and my MP is low I try to get hit and die. Res debuff is preferred over no MP.
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  3. #33
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    Typical Karen
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    Exodus
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    Pugilist Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by CycLee View Post
    yes it did and it was part of several tactics in the past.

    But the Tank LB and the healer LB are kind of gamechanger if anything went wrong or is about to get realy nasty, while the DPS-LB is for the standard situation.
    What was healer LB used as a tactic for exactly? And part of my complaint is the fact that it's reaction times are so sluggish, would be much more "Game-chaning" if it didn't tank 20 years to use. As for the game-changer part, tank and healer LBs are extremely situational. Neither will save you from most wipes (Tank maybe in Garuda Ex, or WoD if your PT screws up and cant kill orbs, ect.) and the likelyhood of wiping withing 20 seconds of using the LBs is extremely high.
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    Last edited by Reinfeld; 03-17-2015 at 12:58 PM.

  4. #34
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    I find that 99% of the time, DPS LB's aren't needed... in fact the LB is only being used "cause it's there" and it knocks the last 5% off the boss, which saves an entire 30 seconds from the run, oh ~yayy~~~.
    You'll find differently if you observe fights with meaningful phase changes.

    LBs are fluff for casual content in that good groups don't need them, while truly bad groups probably won't be saved by them.
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  5. #35
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Saved an Ifrit EX run from a wipe with the healer LB today. Reaffirmed my stance.

    I'm all for making it better, but healing by definition is making the bars be not-empty. I'm really not sure how a healer LB could be any better than it currently is without taking something that is already done by another LB.
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  6. #36
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    Ramien's Avatar
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    Morrigan Mieaux
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
    Saved an Ifrit EX run from a wipe with the healer LB today. Reaffirmed my stance.

    I'm all for making it better, but healing by definition is making the bars be not-empty. I'm really not sure how a healer LB could be any better than it currently is without taking something that is already done by another LB.
    Adding raise effects earlier, adding regen effects after the raise, and/or healing everyone's mp, not just people raised would be good starts, in my mind.
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