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    Player
    Ikono's Avatar
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    Akio Novar
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    Zodiark
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    Lancer Lv 35

    Why can boss fights be started while first-timers are watching the cutscene?

    Yesterday I visited The Stone Vigil for the first time. Before the boss, I watched the story cutscene. I only do this when I'm new to a dungeon and I always try to click through the texts as fast as possible.

    Unfortunately the tank was an egoistic rusher. Although he knew that someone was there for the first time, watching the cutscene, he began the fight after few seconds. I could not take part at it.

    Why is this possible? The game has cutscenes, but contradictorily allows other players to either force you to skip them or to not let you participate in the fight.

    Suggestion: Make boss arenas inaccessible until everyone has watched/skipped the cutscene. These clips should run automatically, so that other players only have to wait a certain time. Plus, the timer should be paused during cutscenes.

    Result: Everyone can watch cutscenes and take part at the battle. In case all party members already know the scene, they can still skip it and quickly start the fight.
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 73
    This is a huge issue in Castrum/Prae, but if someone is impatient enough to leave a member behind, they really aren't helping themselves.
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  3. #3
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I don't think something like that would really be needed it's unfair to force things on people but i do have sympathy for you in that position. SV being a story dungeon you kind of want to watch the pre boss cutscene and i always wait in this case since it's just a single one not like in Castrum and Prae where there are hundreds of cutscenes and new players want to watch every single one of them. The last boss in SV takes about 2-3 minutes to kill so it's hardly an issue to wait a minute or so for a pre boss cutscene.

    Unfortunately some Tanks are just divas who want everything their own way.
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    This is a huge issue in Castrum/Prae, but if someone is impatient enough to leave a member behind, they really aren't helping themselves.
    6/8 ppl are i100+
    They engage while 3 ppl who are fresh 50 are watching cutscenes = probably almost dead boss by the time the ppl watching finish.
    May save seconds minutes idk but whatever works for the majority.
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    Yumi Umi
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    Adamantoise
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yumi_umi View Post
    6/8 ppl are i100+
    They engage while 3 ppl who are fresh 50 are watching cutscenes = probably almost dead boss by the time the ppl watching finish.
    May save seconds minutes idk but whatever works for the majority.
    My bad i mean 2 ppl not 3 cuz u know maths... Lol
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    Llyren Wolfpaw
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    No one can force you to skip cutscenes.

    The participating in the fights bits, yeah everyone went through that once.

    Main scenario first time is for watching cutscenes. Second time is for learning fights.

    If the boss fight could not be started until the cutscene is over then the instance could be held hostage.

    I'd prefer for it to finish while I am watching a cutscene, then participating in a battle, but I've already watched the cutscenes... so I'll play with the monsters a bit while others watch.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Llyren View Post

    If the boss fight could not be started until the cutscene is over then the instance could be held hostage.
    You would be right and I kinda thought the same but OP already offered a solution for that: the cutscene would simply run automatically aka the first-timer whos watching it wouldnt have any influence on who long it takes - after a certain amount of time it would simply be over. Might not be great for someone who's slow with reading but you could always rewatched them in the inn - in your own speed - and still didnt really miss them while they actually happen. So with this setup the party couldnt be held hostage - they'd just had to wait for a few minutes.
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    Riepah Redeemer
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 70
    I'm all for people to be allowed to watch their cutscenes on the first run of a dungeon, but if the rest of the group outgear it so much that they can defeat the bosses with ease without waiting on the new players, then I think it's a bit much to expect them to wait through every cutscene every time they're with a new player. Especially in Praetorium and Castrum Meridianum, there are a ton of cutscenes and the bosses are trivial as hell nowadays.

    As long as they aren't giving you flak for watching cutscenes, they're being considerate enough. Waiting until you're done watching cutscenes would make the dungeon take roughly twice as long.
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    Tanthalus Rain
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    Adamantoise
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    Conjurer Lv 51
    There are simple solutions to this issue that get churned out every time this comes up. Go to an inn and watch the cutscenes at your leisure. Yes I know it's not the same because your no longer there but honestly let's be real, You remembered the fight if you did it within the hour and when you hit 50 your going to run it a lot more. People should also realize that this is the internet and it's not just your time your on. 3 other people are trading their time to be there as well so think about putting them out as much as your asking them to wait for you. Not saying I rush through but it's a give and take on both sides and you'll always have access to the CS videos.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
    World
    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Better suggestion: Watch the cutscene, let them do the fight, then re-enter the dungeon afterwards so you can do the fight while skipping the cutscene. /thread
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