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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    All the ones I know of here in the US is also like this, also order doesn't matter either, if you have the number, you have the number.
    You people also drive on the wrong side of the road too so I am not surprised.

    If I pick 1234 but the draw is 4321 it equals a win and if number drawn equals 1234 equals lose but that makes little to no sense why you wouldn't pick your numbers same as they are drawn. It defies common sense, there is no reason I can see as to why you would force people to have to put their numbers in reverse in order to win in countries which read and write in the opposite way.

    In Japan for example I can understand why they draw in reverse, because they read from right to left but in that situation it surely would make sense to pick from right to left too instead of what we have here picking left to right. Even in the US you are taught to write from left to right and read from left to right so why would it make any sense to make the draw right to left which is the opposite to both how you read and how you write...it's counter intuitive. It's like buying a drink but having to stand on your head upside down to drink it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    It's completely alien to us in Europe as reading things backwards isn't a feature of our indigenous languages.
    Logically it should be the same in the US as they too are taught to read and write from left to right...which is why I find it odd that they also use a very counter intuitive system over there. Over here ours makes sense, your taught to read and write left to right, the draw is left to right as is the matching numbers system. Sounds to me in the US they had some guy randomly choose to do the opposite to mess with their heads and now they just used to it instead of it making sense language wise. Another example would be like being taught to drive on the left or right side of the road yet when pass your test your expected to drive on the opposite side you were taught just for lulz or the desire to see more car crashes...it makes no sense to me. The current system makes literally no sense in nations where you are taught to read and write from left to right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    You people also drive on the wrong side of the road too so I am not surprised.
    Only if I had a few too many. But I guess there is a bit of misunderstanding. I meant it was like you said. They are not read from back to front, and order doesn't matter. When I played my first Jumbo and got the results I was like " say what, its backwards"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Logically it should be the same in the US as they too are taught to read and write from left to right... Sounds to me in the US they had some guy randomly choose to do the opposite to mess with their heads and now they just used to it instead of it making sense language wise... The current system makes literally no sense in nations where you are taught to read and write from left to right.
    That's what I was meaning but I used sarcasm because if I'd have said "why are you using a non-Western writing style?" I'd probably be accused of racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    You people also drive on the wrong side of the road too so I am not surprised.
    Actually more countries drive on the right side than the left.

    Plus I think people are missing the obvious reason for the rule. In most lotteries there are a great deal of numbers, sometimes 54 numbers, in this lottery there are only 10, 0-9. So obviously with fewer numbers, the combinations that can be made are limited, so an additional system rule needs to be in play to allow for a greater number of outcomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    its called mini cactpot
    What? It's just as bad. Some win tenthousands, other win 10% of this, this will accumulate in giant wins for some and almost nothing for others. Sure, it's not as brutal as the big cactpot, but people can play both anyway.

    So or so, you can't count on this, that's why people told Square to change this and make the real gaming rewards bigger, what will happen next patch in 2 weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinRethiel View Post
    What? It's just as bad. Some win tenthousands, other win 10% of this, this will accumulate in giant wins for some and almost nothing for others. Sure, it's not as brutal as the big cactpot, but people can play both anyway.

    So or so, you can't count on this, that's why people told Square to change this and make the real gaming rewards bigger, what will happen next patch in 2 weeks.
    its no lottery if you hand out the same to everyone...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Plus I think people are missing the obvious reason for the rule. In most lotteries there are a great deal of numbers, sometimes 54 numbers, in this lottery there are only 10, 0-9. So obviously with fewer numbers, the combinations that can be made are limited, so an additional system rule needs to be in play to allow for a greater number of outcomes.
    What? It is the same number of outcomes whether it is drawn from the left or the right. The outcomes are limited by the amount of columns and amount of numbers in each, not which end you start from.

    It does not increase the amount of outcomes just because you read it from the right as opposed to the left and I truly hope they don't teach in the US maths lessons that if read something backwards it increases the possible number combinations/outcomes because that would be a mathematical fallacy. The issue has nothing to do with amount of outcomes though despite your claim which makes no mathematical sense. It has everything to do with common sense and logic, if your taught to read and write from left to right it is counter intuitive to draw the winning numbers from right to left when being asked to pick left to right like how you read and write.

    Just because you have a messed up, illogical, nonsensical system in the US doesn't make it a good system. In a country where reading from right to left is normal like Japan it makes more sense to draw from right to left but in country where your taught the opposite and read/write from left to right it is logical to draw from left to right. I gave examples above of how illogical the current system is in game and how illogical and counter intuitive the US system is with the drinking on your head example and the driving example but then again the US does a lot of illogical things for the sake of being different like your date system, logical is dd/mm/yy as in the UK with each sequential part being greater in time than the previous as opposed to the US date system.

    You wouldn't for example count time in seconds/hours/minutes logically but would count it either as seconds/minutes/hours (increasing) or hours/minutes/seconds (decreasing). The current lotto system in this game and the US system along with the US date structure is illogical and counter intuitive. I am of the mind you only accept it from habit and not because makes sense, but those of us who's systems actually make sense might not like the fact your throwing common sense and logic out the window just because a few other nations disregard such things. The issue of having to use illogical and nonsensical system which is not used in our countries for good reason, that is what this complaint is about really.

    If your happy using such a counter intuitive system out of habit then it is fine for you but try to understand that in nations where such systems are based on logic and common sense it does not make much sense to do it this way. I could for example always run/walk backwards despite the fact my eyes are on the front of my head and not the back, but it would not make sense to do so and same thing applies here when taught to read/write from the left, picked your numbers from the left yet the winning draw is ass backwards.
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    Frankly, I don't mind that you have to have numbers in a certain position... I mean duplicate numbers are possible in the winning number. But I really think it shouldn't matter where the number matches..

    For example say the result was:
    7734 winning number
    3774 your number

    So you match all numbers, but only 2 are in the right place so shouldn't you still get to win for matching 2 in the right place?
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    Lotteries count the later digits for the smaller prizes so that people watching the draw live have hope up until the very end. It has nothing to do with language styles.

    For people who say 'any position should count' - why? Neither way makes more 'sense' than the other, but they do have very different prize spreads and chances. The Jumbo Cacpot way gives simple odds:

    1st prize: 1 in 10,000
    2nd prize: 1 in 1,000
    3rd prize: 1 in 100
    4th prize: 1 in 10

    (Ok I know I haven't tweaked the figures to take account of people not winning multiple prizes, but it makes minimal difference.)

    The Jumbo Cacpot is perfectly fine as it is.
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