First run-through of Aurum Vale

[MissDiaryHolder]

Right there is the problem. As a healer that dungeon is fun, unless you're one of these healers that at level 45+ still haven't figured out how to use their skills correctly. Try running it as a tank or dps and it becomes a nightmare. Mainly as a tank lol.

I'm sure I will experience dpsing the dungeon one day haha, but I mainly heal in this game, and yeah after watching a guide and having a lot of healing experience on my 50 WHM it was enjoyable, the dps in the group I was in died 4 times bc he kept not avoiding the 100 Tonne swing from Coincounter even after we told him a few times, other than that it was fine.

[MissDiaryHolder]

People dislike the dungeon because it requires everybody to know what they're doing, and for everybody to be at least competent at their jobs. Otherwise, you will have a bad time. I was lucky enough for my last run to get a party who were competent, including the brand new SMN who was in there for the first time. We explained how bosses went, he did a near flawless job during them. A shame that most people aren't competent, which makes the place either take longer than it should or makes it impossible to do (I'm looking at you, DPS who don't use DoTs and AoEs!).

Yes I agree, without knowledge of the dungeon it becomes difficult, that's why I made sure to watch a guide for it :P

[MXMoondoggie]

Having a clueless Healer is the absolute worst thing in AV and then you're trying to tell them to use divine seal + regen and they just don't, WHM who never uses holy to kill eggs on last boss etc, Had one like that and he was up his own backside too and i eventually got kicked which was fine they were never going to finish anyway. When it's the class you main it's even more annoying when somebody is bad and thinks they are gods gift to gaming. He even called me out like "Shut up or i leave" I just told him that's fine I'll get a proper Healer from my FC to finish it and then they kicked me XD. I guess the other people were too inexperienced to not give in to a whiny Healers demands.

[bloodSp3c]

AV is my fav dungeon and the only one that offers a decent challenge, ive played all roles in it

every other dungeon is a faceroll imo

[Sessurea]

It's the best dungeon in the game really...why on earth do we not have a hm yet ><

[KisaiTenshi]

I have seen guides and heard many things that people hated the dungeon. Now I can say it was a bit annoying but I healed it without much trouble and it was pretty fun considering I despise Malboro enemies. Anyone else actually like this dungeon and would run it again after the first time?

Depends on your perspective.

- On DPS, you can get awful healers and every pull takes forever, as you wipe during pulls and newbies stand in the gold bile everywhere.
- On Healer, you get Tanks and zerg-DPS who try to play it like other dungeons and wipe before getting near the first boss, or wiping at every boss because people aren't waiting till 2/3 on the debuff.
- On Tank (I never tank), it's probably awful to do pulls on since a lot of the enemies are close by and they easily overwhelm players without AOE's.

It's good EXP if you're not yet 50, other than that, it's the worst pre-50 dungeon.

This is the only dungeon that has a serious gear check. Most of the other dungeons pre-50 you can get away with having gear ilevel 10 levels below the dungeon level. If you get a healer or a tank that isn't running around in ilevel 100+ gear, it's going to be a long run.

In 2013 (On release) the run's easily ran near the time limit because even with the maximum gear and food buffs, players still try to faceroll through it, and you can't do that.

This is the only dungeon where if you get a bad party, you are far better off abandoning it than continuing, because a bad party will wipe probably 3 times per boss.

Weak DPS - Healer runs out of MP too fast, party wipes
Stupid DPS - Healer runs out of MP too fast, party wipes
Weak Tank - Healer runs out of MP too fast, party wipes
Weak Healer - Healer runs out of MP too fast, party wipes.

This is a dungeon where the healer should not DPS, or they will cause the party to wipe.

This is the only dungeon where you can't jump the gun. Wait for the entire party's MP/TP to recover before starting each pull/boss. I've salvaged some awful runs before, but if you give me attitude in this dungeon, I will ditch it, and I suggest other players abandon it as well.

[VargasVermillion]

It was only bad back in 2.0 due to WHM not knowing they could Holy or getting a party with a SMN/SCH (pets used to suffer massively from the debuffs).

[Aeyis]

It's mainly annoying when you get a bad group it was probably nerfed since the game was released and with roulette you can get experienced players for easier runs. The hate for it mostly stems from the last boss and the fact it's quite a dull looking dungeon.

I think the hate comes more from the fact that people like to speedrun, and noone takes the time to explain boss mechanics to new players = wipe. I suspect many peoples first run of the place were like that.

Right there is the problem. As a healer that dungeon is fun, unless you're one of these healers that at level 45+ still haven't figured out how to use their skills correctly. Try running it as a tank or dps and it becomes a nightmare. Mainly as a tank lol.

Healing that place isnt fun at all with the average group.

[Garlyle]

Yes I agree, without knowledge of the dungeon it becomes difficult, that's why I made sure to watch a guide for it :P

Even if you did, there's no guarantee that your allies will have done so - or that, more importantly, they'll have developped the skills required!
>The pull rooms are huge, open, and full of room to end up pulling multiple groups at once, even by accident. A mispositioned tank - or anyone - can cause a battle to start spiraling out of control quickly in ways that you rarely see with trash pulls.
>Second boss requires players to be watching the cast bar and the boss itself which is a fairly drastic departure from every previous boss
>Third boss can hella punish players that are slower on the draw or badly positioned (Bad Breath and the seeds)

I actually love Aurum Vale. A lot.

[Chihaya]

I typically go healer for sub-50 dungeons for zodiac item farming

AV is ok... unless I get some STR spec + STR accessories tank with barely over 3k HP that does large pulls (on purpose or not)
See their HP drop under 1k each round of attack while I just spam heals non-stop and sometimes can't keep up when they get crit'd too much,