My Philosophy on Needing for Lower iLevel Gear

[HakaseNyan]

Pretty sure all that needs to be said has been said.

[Tanthalus]

I can't disagree with you OP and by rights if you can click need and you want it then yes you shouldn't feel bad about taking it. In high level dungeons, in my personal experience I greed on all loot, even ones I can need on. Seals are always welcome and nice but people forget the going nature in there. Be good to each other so they'll be good to you. Rolling greed over need has earned me countless player commendations I can be sure of it. That currency only being earned by gaining the respect of your peers.

[T2teddy]

At the beginning of a dungeon I always check the gear on player info of anyone in group who is the same class I am on. If their gear is worse than mine, I will tell them to need on the item.

These zodiac books make us run lower level content and I find very frequently that I end up with level appropriate folks in my group. No way am I, in my ilvl1XX gear, going to NEED a darned thing from those dungeons to make me a better player.

Considering how infrequently some things drop in the level 40-49 instances, I won't deprive another bard, mage or dragoon of an upgrade. Those people run those places just as often to gear up as we ran CT or coils.

Losing a need roll to someone who obviously is never going to equip said item drop to improve their dps, heals etc, is just plain maddening.

[Miste]

I've said it before in another thread but you cannot force random people in DF to follow rules you yourself made up, the game already has loot rules set in place that EVERY player is forced to follow so it is equal treatment to all participating.

If you want special loot rules in things you participate in you are free to make a PF and outline those rules.

Otherwise, everyone has just as much right to lot on things as the in game loot rules allow them to, whether it be they are able to Need or only Greed.

I guess it just goes to show how unfriendly the community is in FFXI compared to other games. In my books, 'NEED' should be a direct upgrade to existing gear. Glamors and desynthesis come under 'Greed'. If you're rolling NEED and you know full well there's a party member who will benefit more from that gear than you will, then you're a horrible person.

Honestly, if you're getting nothing out of it why rob someone else of a potential upgrade? It's just being greedy for the sake of it.

I usually always pass dungeon drops from everything pre 50 (unless all the people are 50 already anyway), but you cannot expect this from everyone, because they are there, in the dungeon or fight doing their job so honestly they can roll if they want to without feeling guilty or ashamed because if the game allows them to then its totally fair and equal treatment to all participating. So no, they are not stealing, they are not greedy, they are not horrible people, they are participating and playing the game how the game allows.

[Dererk]

Don't forget people will be going in as the role and need on gear to gear the new jobs in 3.0.