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  1. #11
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    Lothar A'vanoh
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    Since this is your first time experiencing this. You do know you only get 6 level allowances a day right (3 every 12 hrs)? You might be able to level one or more DoH classes to 50 in a day or two, but that comes at a cost. You will have to wait 16 days before you have 100 leves again and can repeat the process. So while yes you can power level a few classes, you then have to wait a very long time to do it again.
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    Luna Krustallos
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    Because grinding ingots on a macro for days on end just sounds far less tedious than it already is to grind leves.
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    Eros Maxima
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    It's mostly to do with the outlook of it. Crafting is not for everyone. General outlook is that it is tedious, and thus boring. Unlike leveling a class/job, there was really only one way to do it without leves... which means that there's only 2 ways to do it (prior to Ixal daily quests, which would make it 3). Even with the daily quests, that's only so much per day (similar to leves, but you can't build them up to reserve beyond one extra day).

    Crafting is also considered side content, which means that methods to level it don't have to be as restrictive on gains. When ARR first released, leves weren't exactly the most reliable means to level (due to leve allowance, mat cost/availability, and certain bugs). These days, it's not very difficult to find someone that can assist you with leve items to turn in. Be that as it may though, it still doesn't remove the tedious nature of leveling a craft, so it doesn't change the outlook of easing the process.
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  4. #14
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    Luna Sushima
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    So you want to level it to 50 then pull the ladder up behind you? Not everyone has an easy time making HQ turn-ins, they require decent gear and a fair amount of cross-class skills to pull off. Yes it's a good chunk of xp, be happy about it and don't try and ruin it for those that come after.
    Uh.. no, I have a problem with it before and after. I would rather the EXP not be this giving. But who wouldn't take advantage of it? In fact it's hard to not take advantage of it once you find it. I am only expressing what I see. If the EXP was where I think it should be I wouldn't be here discussing about it. So no I am not " Pulling the ladder behind me". Because if the EXP was a bit lower in the first place The ladder would still be there.

    In the end though, it won't matter as nothing will probably change. but I am allowed to give my opinion on the matter as feedback is important.

    Carry on!
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  5. #15
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    Scarlet Dawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Uh.. no, I have a problem with it before and after. I would rather the EXP not be this giving. But who wouldn't take advantage of it? In fact it's hard to not take advantage of it once you find it. I am only expressing what I see. If the EXP was where I think it should be I wouldn't be here discussing about it. So no I am not " Pulling the ladder behind me". Because if the EXP was a bit lower in the first place The ladder would still be there.

    In the end though, it won't matter as nothing will probably change. but I am allowed to give my opinion on the matter as feedback is important.

    Carry on!
    What about people who dont have many hours to play the game? These leves can help them quickly level crafting classes, while they don't have as many options as battle classes, so leves are really the best time efficient way to level.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletDawn View Post
    What about people who dont have many hours to play the game? These leves can help them quickly level crafting classes, while they don't have as many options as battle classes, so leves are really the best time efficient way to level.
    I am not saying drop the exp by 20k or anything like that. I understand people that don't have that much time need to levels at a decent pace too. but I do think 30k is a bit ( just a bit) over-excessive for people with or without time. 25k with a 50-75% increase for a HQ.

    That's still a lot for the people who don't have time. This is only my perspective though. Things won't change because 1 person thinks it's too much. That doesn't stop me from letting them know about my opinion .
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    Devils Lawyer
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    lvl 1 to 50 is the easy part.

    Not so sure youll complain about things beeing to easy when you finally get fully melded artisan gear, lucious tool and Master craft book II
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    Not so sure youll complain about things beeing to easy when you finally get fully melded artisan gear, lucious tool and Master craft book II
    Well tbh that's the time when you WILL start saying things are easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devils_Lawyer View Post
    lvl 1 to 50 is the easy part.

    Not so sure youll complain about things beeing to easy when you finally get fully melded artisan gear, lucious tool and Master craft book II
    Lol! I am sure I have hard times for me as a Culinarist! :P
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Hyperion
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wobi View Post
    So you want to level it to 50 then pull the ladder up behind you? Not everyone has an easy time making HQ turn-ins, they require decent gear and a fair amount of cross-class skills to pull off. Yes it's a good chunk of xp, be happy about it and don't try and ruin it for those that come after.
    The fact that you can have a friend make the stuff for you ruins any challenge this has and any argument you may have, honestly.

    I'm not for or against it, whatever, it's crafting, just thought your argument was a little silly. :P
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