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  1. #11
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    synesthetic's Avatar
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    Rihael Eden
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    Going back and forth between only two points isn't even possible. Three is the minimum required for nodes to come back. So if the guy actually had his hatchet out like the OP said, then I assume a flaw in observation on that point.

    If the guy really used Ward and still didn't swing though.. then yeah, that's a failbot.
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  2. #12
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    Tiger Undie
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    or he switched between 3 nodes and op wasnt able to count
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  3. #13
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    Ramien's Avatar
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    Morrigan Mieaux
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    The OP also said the 'bot' wasn't harvesting anything. The nodes don't disappear if you don't actually harvest from them, so they could have been operating on a bad script.
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  4. #14
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    Kyri Sagitta
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    Kinda have to agree with a lot of the posters here. Though ive seen bots harvesting this isn't botting. I myself do the three node trick to look for soil seeds and maps. its not hard, but it is kinda boring so i might stop and type to my fc something or a response, or to my ls, or to a rp ls run check the next one, continue chatting. its how you stay sane when your trying for some things esp the grade 2 soils that you -might- see 1-2 in a hour sometimes. Using ward? I dunno about, maybe someone once told them they can up chances by wasting a ability to have them show up. If there after seeds/maps/soil GP isn't a factor and isn't needed. However touching a node and running off for a long time sounds more like grade 2 soil farming to me.

    On a small side note I mean maybe a broken bot? Id hate people to get gm called for merely 3 node touching trying to get soils thus my response in the matter but whos to know? Perhaps, to humor both sides said person was max on the crystals and that's why they didn't harvest? I suppose that would be a possible thing. Im not sure how bot programs work, I don't use them. Though I do feel bot gets called out for a few too many things sometimes that I don't think is actual botting.(though I am agreeing there is these programs, I remember when the game first came out people were teleporting to nodes @.@)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramien View Post
    The OP also said the 'bot' wasn't harvesting anything. The nodes don't disappear if you don't actually harvest from them, so they could have been operating on a bad script.
    Yes they do you just need to touch three, not harvest them. But like others said you have to touch three, so it's more a case of are you sure you didnt see them touching three close nodes since you dont see the same nodes someone else sees. You only double a node together half the time.
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    Last edited by Kyri; 03-14-2015 at 04:29 AM.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueodAjWZ0A4
    Ah, but will facing north-by-northeast at 2:45 a.m. while the moon is a waning crescent result in a 27% increase in your chances to synthesize HQ mythril ingots!? That is real the question! ~Fernehalwes~

  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyri View Post

    Yes they do you just need to touch three, not harvest them. But like others said you have to touch three, so it's more a case of are you sure you didnt see them touching three close nodes since you dont see the same nodes someone else sees. You only double a node together half the time.
    So long as you don't actually act with the node (And it's not an unspoiled), you can certainly run between nodes and they'll stay spawned. Until you deplete them, they don't change. Just to verify, I tested in Mor Dhona on the level 50 deposits. Right click on the node, then just close it. It's still there. Run to the next node, harvest one item (A map on the first node, a shard on the second node) then exit. The node's 'health bar' is down a notch, but it's still active. So long as you don't deplete them, they stay there.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramien View Post
    So long as you don't actually act with the node (And it's not an unspoiled), you can certainly run between nodes and they'll stay spawned. Until you deplete them, they don't change. Just to verify, I tested in Mor Dhona on the level 50 deposits. Right click on the node, then just close it. It's still there. Run to the next node, harvest one item (A map on the first node, a shard on the second node) then exit. The node's 'health bar' is down a notch, but it's still active. So long as you don't deplete them, they stay there.
    However, if you go to another node after that one and just open the window, then do that two more times on two other nodes, that part health one will respawn.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonFlyy View Post
    However, if you go to another node after that one and just open the window, then do that two more times on two other nodes, that part health one will respawn.
    Yes, but I wasn't trying to point that part out. I was just verifying that, so long as no harvesting is being done (which the OP noted was the case in their description), it's perfectly possible to run between two nodes without them disappearing.
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  8. #18
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    Kyri Sagitta
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    yes -two- nodes I did clarify on that however you cant -see- the persons nodes, and they don't always have the same node spots as you thus why I said "is the person sure they were going between two nodes?" because if you cant see and they happen to be close together there very well might be three and the OP is missing it. Even in the quote you quoted me I specifically mentioned that.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueodAjWZ0A4
    Ah, but will facing north-by-northeast at 2:45 a.m. while the moon is a waning crescent result in a 27% increase in your chances to synthesize HQ mythril ingots!? That is real the question! ~Fernehalwes~

  9. #19
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    Possibly trying to harvest the nodes that have crystals on them. There are certain sets of 4 nodes where 2 of them have crystals and shards and the other two have just the shards + whatever else, in which they're only harvesting those two, and as others have stated, the bot (maybe not bot) goes to the other two, stand there, and move to the next to respawn the previously used nodes. I also did this when farming topsoil nodes, crystals and seeds.
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  10. #20
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    Kuda Dela'mango
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    I sat there for a good 40 minutes + watching the player go between the 2 exact nodes, stand each node for a bit with hatchet out not harvesting. Ward for wind was being used once in awhile assuming when they had gp for it? I have never used the wards but instead use the yield buff. Depending on the node area and what I am after I tend to only go to the 3 closest to each other. Either way it's not up to me to find out wether they are actually botting or not, that's the task force's job. Btw the player's toon was there for hours, what's the point of running between the same 2 nodes for hours if you're not gathering anything? Eventually before I logged off the player seemed to go offline (guessing to offload crystals to sell) then reappeared same zone. Checked and yep back at the same 2 nodes same behaviour.
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