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    Wulfyn's Avatar
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    Kuda Dela'mango
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    Lancer Lv 60

    Botters in your large FC ?

    So I go to get my daily map, I see a botanist just staring at the tree with their hatchet out. Not doing anything. Next thing I know I see them put hatchet away, turn, back up, then run for another node. Think ok weird..... Still no map for me, but I see them doing the same thing at other node, so decide to watch. Watched them go back and forth to the same 2 nodes never harvesting but at times using the ward for wind. Look and see they are in a big FC with big house.

    Either you are aware that you have members who bot or you don't. Kind of makes me wonder how many bot in that FC and if that's how they paid for the plot amongst other things.

    Well that will be up to the GM's to figure out, hope you botters get banned.
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    Captnyan Meowpants
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    Is this eorzea missed connections?
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    Tam Hawkins
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I do a similiar Thing (not only two nods because it Needs to be done with at least three)
    When I'm searching for topsoil or other hidden items (you don't Need to gather from a node for it to refresh.

    But it is weird that he was only doing it for two.
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    Tocsin Wolndara
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tam_Hawkins View Post
    I do a similiar Thing (not only two nods because it Needs to be done with at least three)
    When I'm searching for topsoil or other hidden items (you don't Need to gather from a node for it to refresh.

    But it is weird that he was only doing it for two.
    I also do this, mainly when im farming gardening seeds.

    its 3 nodes, though. not 2.

    This REALLY doesn't sound like a botter to me. bots want to use their time as efficiently as possible to make gil, not look for only the best items.
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    Stouter Taru
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    I might think it was legit except for the part where he uses wards. Clearly a broken bot.
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    Jasla Angelkin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfyn View Post
    So I go to get my daily map, I see a botanist just staring at the tree with their hatchet out. Not doing anything. Next thing I know I see them put hatchet away, turn, back up, then run for another node. Think ok weird..... Still no map for me, but I see them doing the same thing at other node, so decide to watch. Watched them go back and forth to the same 2 nodes never harvesting but at times using the ward for wind. Look and see they are in a big FC with big house.

    Either you are aware that you have members who bot or you don't. Kind of makes me wonder how many bot in that FC and if that's how they paid for the plot amongst other things.

    Well that will be up to the GM's to figure out, hope you botters get banned.
    More than likely it's a stolen account.
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    Jican Marquees
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    Ultros
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    Botanist Lv 90
    I run Company of Heroes on Ultros and I've removed a few botters that snuck in as real people then turned around and were caught either advertising, or straight up cheating with third party programs. One person came back and said he was hacked, let him back in, then he was caught doing the same thing. My FC has a zero tolerance to that type of behavior.
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    Rihael Eden
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    The person described by the OP doesn't sound like a bot, unless the "staring" was consistently for a long time at each node.

    If you're after rare items like seeds and maps, then you just check nodes without swinging (this should only take a couple of seconds). After a third node is checked, the first one respawns. So if three nodes spawn particularly close to each other, you just cycle through checking those three, and only swing if the item you're after pops up.
    If you don't want to waste GP, then you also pop a ward whenever you have 400 GP back. Especially if these are Lv.50 shard / crystal / carbonized matter nodes. Whether you're a crafter or just selling, most crystals are worth a fair amount.

    If they were a dumb bot though, then they'd possibly spend a long time at each node, clicking on each normally-empty slot.
    -------------------

    I've seen and reported some really dumb, obvious-bots, and honestly.. none of them have been banned. Both RMTs and regular players.

    Like, I haven't seen this one in a while, but for a month or so, I saw these guys camping the G3 Thanalan Soil nodes. They'd hit the unspoiled node for their soil, then stand there with their picks out like retards for the full 9 minutes until the node expires on its own. You could argue that they were just afk, but immediately after the node expired, they'd move a few steps over to some default location. Then just repeat this for the rest of the day.

    The people who used that bot eventually switched over to a less obvious one, where they'd actually teleport from town, run to the node, swing, and then teleport/return back to town. Otherwise, miners all day staring at the aetheryte in town.

    Last time I saw them, and at least one guy from another FC, I'd see them come as a mini-mob on their mounts, then stop on the exact same spot. Wait for the node. Run towards the node at the exact same time and on the same path. Do their business. Leave.

    Nowadays, since I don't need gardening stuff anymore, but I need clusters, I'll see bots walking the -entire- path between nodes, stealthed.

    And then back when Novus was new, people botted FATEs all night to get alexandrite. Then botted them again for lights when Nexus came out.

    Another guy I saw in N.Thanalan once was trying to bot kills all night to spiritbond, but it was obviously broken by the time I saw him because he only had like 2-3k HP from all of his gear being broken, and he'd repeatedly run up to something like a basilisk to try to kill it.. then run away because he'd be almost dead. Basilisk would still have half of its health. Run back out once he's at full HP again, repeat.

    I've seen small people bot FATEs too, even with sprout icons over their heads. And you can tell they're bots once you see them run whenever their target uses any skill, regardless of where an AoE ground marker is facing, or even when there is no marker. Like a monster's casting to heal itself, and the bots run away... Furthermore, they only pay attention to their target's skill usage. So even if other people point their monster's (or five monsters') AoEs at the bot, the bot won't run. And if the bot dies, they just run back out and continue.

    Personally, until I hear that some of these bots actually get banned, or SE comes out and gives some sort of guideline on how to definitely get these bots banned, I'm not going to bother reporting anymore.
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    Misenklauph Drakkfhur
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by synesthetic View Post
    The person described by the OP doesn't sound like a bot, unless the "staring" was consistently for a long time at each node.
    What makes it sound like a broken bot is:
    • Only going back and forth between only two gathering points.
    • never swinging to actually gather anything
    • The use of the elemental Ward, coupled with my previous point.
    • "botanist just staring at the tree with their hatchet out. Not doing anything."
    Explanation : The fact that the bot is never swinging, is a big clue to it bein both a bot, and that is not programmed correctly. With it constantly using an elemental ward, you can assume the intent is to gather crystals. If you were running betwen 3 points, and never swinging, you might be looking for rare items. I do this all the time. If I'm not swinging, I'm only gathering rare items, and I wouldn't be popping elemental wards. If I am gathering crystals, I would go to all four nodes, use elemental wards, and swing my axe/hatchet. The final bulletin, points at perhaps a typo or an invalid command to instruct the bot to swing. The waits are working as intended, but whatever command has bene typed to try and get the chatacter to swing is what isn't working. It's probably standing there for the duration it takes to gather the full amount of crystals/shards/etc and then runs back to the other node.

    Also, the bot could be programmed to detect and autorun to the nearest node. since it isn't swinging, that's why it's unning back and forth to the same two nodes, instead of then running to a third.
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    Last edited by Mishini_Dracoto; 03-14-2015 at 12:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noni View Post
    I wish more tanks were like you also.
    http://xivreborn.com/gen/Misenklauph_Drakkfhur_Ultros_Classes.jpg

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    Stouter Taru
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    Quote Originally Posted by synesthetic View Post
    The person described by the OP doesn't sound like a bot, unless the "staring" was consistently for a long time at each node.

    ...

    If you don't want to waste GP, then you also pop a ward whenever you have 400 GP back.
    Except this guy was using wards, and never harvesting. Broken bot.
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