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  1. #1
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    Epicgult's Avatar
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    Epic Guilt
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    Need help!!/healz

    Hey how's it going epic here well I am thinking of making a sch and we'll I was wondering what would be the best stat combo to do. any advice anyone could give me for leveling it up fast and just make it easier for me or just friendly advice you could Give a new player to it thanks for reading and I hope to hear back from people !!! Also I have been debating on a whm what is the diffrence between the two? And also which one is better for raiding and which is better for pvp and such?!

    New player and veteran advice is welcome
    Thanks


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    Last edited by Epicgult; 03-13-2015 at 10:26 AM.
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    Tsurayu's Avatar
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    Yuki Furostomi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Well, stat priority isn't vastly different from White Mage, except that Scholars tend to value Crit more than Det because of our chance to proc our Galvanize abilities. So, something like: Weapon Damage > Mind > Crit > Det.

    Really, other than that it's just a learning process like any other class. I would recommend leveling via dungeons, particularly the Low Level Roulette. Don't level Scholar via FATEs if you don't have much experience healing in this game, you'll be at quite a disadvantage when you start doing more advanced content in the game, speaking from experience here. Heh.

    Hmm, other than that, the sooner you learn to have your Fairies on Obey, and learn how to control their abilities manually, the better off you'll be. It's okay to have them on Auto at first, but the quicker you ween yourself off of the AI, and learn to multitask them yourself, the more effective you will be.

    Only real "advanced" thing I can say, and only advanced because it's a problem (I feel) that many end game Scholars have, don't rely on Macros. A lot of Scholars out there use Macros because they are convenient, but they tend to cause issues due to the different cooldown your ablities have compared to your Fairies. Physick + Embrace is popular, and while it isn't likely to cause you any serious issue, you'll actually manage cause your Fairy's Embrace to get further and further out of time with your Physick and prevent her from casting it when she needs to, and can interfere with other macros you may be using.

    Heh, I could go on and on, but I think I'm good for now. XD
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    Kabzy's Avatar
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    There are quite a few differences between WHM and SCH. In a group with both healers, the WHM will generally heal the entire group, as they excel at AoE healing, whereas the SCH will focus on the main tank and mitigation for the group. The SCH will also be the one who is expected to DPS when healing is not too intensive. This is because SCHs DoTs will keep their cleric stance potency, and are a lot more mana efficient than having your WHM spam Holy. For this reason, some SCHs may also consider accuracy as an important stat.

    Levelling a healer in this game is a little too simple, you'll find that post 50 content is where you'll really start learning how to play your job. SCH may have a lot going on, but both healer roles have an incredibly high skill ceiling.

    A few tips! If you play ACN, keep your pet on obey at all times. Spend a few hours learning how to micro-manage your pet, it'll save you trouble further down the line when you see your healing fairy use all her CDs when you don't need them! Also, try DPSing in dungeons when you know that your party can survive for the next 20 seconds or so.Not only does it make things quicker, but it'll get you more comfortable with stance dancing. And finally, level THM to 26. Swiftcast + Resurrection is definitely a necessity.
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    Werhusky's Avatar
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    Nazreen Eby
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    Cerberus
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    Scholar Lv 70
    WHM and SCH are completely different playstyle wise. Actually I use macros on SCH but have only 1 for WHM - reason as stated above petcontrol/dpsing

    Start your game macroless though get used to the skills before trying to combine. General difference for WHM to SCH is the shield SCH can apply with Adloquium and Succor that migitates incoming damage (they dont stack so a spam is not of use) while WHM works with Cure2 with a stronger heal and has with Medica/Medica 2/Cure 3 a good variety of AOE heals.
    You can make up for the "weak" AOE that succor is with fairycontrol (buff the fairy let her aoe heal or single target heal each partymember up). Or simply rely on her auto heal of any partymember that fall below 70 or 80% health. This is quite handy but can be at the other hand be annoying if she heals the "wrong" person.... which leads to macroing her.
    Here is a huge guide/thread about fairy control:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/209109-How-To-Train-Your-Faerie-A-Comprehensive-Guide

    Common are macros like Physick + Embrace and Adlo + Embrace but I am the kind that rather spams the Embrace button manually with simple

    /pac "Embrace" <t> on my healbar and
    /pac "Embrace <tt> on my DPSbar

    for AOE healing I have the usual

    /micon "Rouse"
    /pac "Fey Illumination" <wait.1>
    /ac "Rouse" <wait.1>
    /pac "Whispering Dawn"

    which makes a double buffed AOE Regen and a

    /micon "Whispering Dawn"
    /pac "Heel" <wait.1>
    /pac "Whispering Dawn" <wait.1>
    /ac "Succor"

    for nice AOE heal with shield and followup Regen.
    I recommend not to macro attacks beause it prevents "precast" if you want it so the only offensive skill I have macroed atm is Virus like:

    /micon "Virus"
    /ac "Virus <t>
    /ac "Virus <tt>
    /ac "Virus <f>

    Hope I didnt confuse you with my macroing but if you want to go deep into Sch youll need it (t8+ that is though so time for you to learn ^^)
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I think people have really covered the difference in play style for the two it's pretty much burst vs sustain and it really depends how you like to play. Both are good for all roles including PvP just different. In a Raid the WHM will be able to pull off a lot of big burst heals with longer CD's so when large damage hits they can heal everyone up quickly. The SCH will look to reduce the amount of incoming damage and also protect the main Tank whole the WHM can keep throwing HoT's on the Tank. In a boss fight the SCH will likely do a lot more of a DPS switching role while for trash sections the WHM can do good burst damage with it's Holy attack which is an AoE damage with an AoE stun on it so they can stunlock and damage large mobs making it easier to nuke them down. They also play this role for add phases on bosses.

    For PvP it's more or less the same do you want to play a tooled up Healer role or a Healer/Support role reducing damage and applying DoT's on enemies? A WHM can throw out tons of different kinds of healing skills from HoT to huge single target and group heals for any situation but doesn't have as many DPS skills and only a couple of damage mitigation skills while a SCH has some cool skills like Shadow Flare and Sacred Soil for group DoT's and damage mitigation.

    These are just basics in the role they play it can vary between groups. I play WHM and how it play can be very different depending on the dungeon and what I'm partnered with. With a SCH or with a WHM both work just very different. I enjoy having a switched on SCH around who prefers to take on the role of raising any dead party members so i can concentrate my mana on throwing out heals whole they mitigate damage and sustain DPS i'll have plenty of mana for add phases that require them to be burned down in a group.
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Oh and big advantage when its about dpsing for SCH is that your fairy wont get affected and her heal will still be as strong also Lustrates wont get lower effect than 25% health (actually any buff/debuff on you or target wont change it in any kind) while WHM only has MP costy Stoneskin and Benediction with 6 min cooldown.
    MPwise Aetherflow and Energy drain makes a SCH barely run out of MP and fairyheals are even for free. As WHM MP management is needed and SoS only recovers 1060 MP not affected by your gear.
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