When rolling Need on an item

[DrOstler]

If I'm the only one who is able to roll need on an item can I please just be instantly rewarded with it instead of waiting for everyone else to cast their roll. I have a 100% chance of winning and I don't want to be waiting 5 minutes in a dungeon for my upgrade that would benefit us all just because some people wait until the last moment to roll or just don't at all.

[Ophie-Mio]

If I'm the only one who is able to roll need on an item can I please just be instantly rewarded with it instead of waiting for everyone else to cast their roll. I have a 100% chance of winning and I don't want to be waiting 5 minutes in a dungeon for my upgrade that would benefit us all just because some people wait until the last moment to roll or just don't at all.

No, because the lotting system does not change when it's 4-man vs 8-man vs 24-man. It's the same lotting system. In any other content, most of the time you have a partner that's the same role as you. So even if there is a 50% chance of you getting the item, no, you shouldn't just assume that it's yours if you need. Your request is assuming that the gear is yours no matter the party layout. That's fine in 4-man but in any other content, it doesn't work.

You're asking them to redesign something meant to blanket work for all other content. It's easier just to write in party, "Hey, can you pass or lot, please?"

[Yurihyuga]

No because even items I am the only one able to roll on there a button called pass because what if I don't want the item and someone could use it? Pass is there for a reason and sorry you just need to wait on people to roll. You could ask them to roll?

[Alistaire]

No because even items I am the only one able to roll on there a button called pass because what if I don't want the item and someone could use it? Pass is there for a reason and sorry you just need to wait on people to roll. You could ask them to roll?

They said "after they roll". After you roll, you can't pass.

Of course there's a dozen threads on here asking to allow that to happen for the reason you stated, so this request would be in direct contradiction to that request. They should honestly go with the request to allow passing after lotting because it covers more people's "needs". First time I've seen this kind of request and it screams more "please let me get items instantly in WoD so I can drop faster", but then I'm a cynic.

[DrOstler]

it screams more "please let me get items instantly in WoD so I can drop faster", but then I'm a cynic.

I've never quit anything after getting a drop. On that issue I've always thought that if you quit you should have the item removed from you.

[Nutz]

I've never quit anything after getting a drop. On that issue I've always thought that if you quit you should have the item removed from you.

That's just being petty. Sure there are plenty of people who collect their loot and drop, but often after completing the content several times and their slot will fill in almost immediately. More to the point there's no way to make a distinction between dropping on purpose or for any other reason (power/ ISP outage, PC crash, etc.) so you'd end up punishing people for bad luck.

[DefendPopPunk]

Sure there are plenty of people who collect their loot and drop, but often after completing the content several times and their slot will fill in almost immediately.

Adding to this, I kinda feel that the person that got their loot and left is creating a spot for someone that needs loot from the upcoming fights. In that way, they're giving the opportunity to get a drop to someone else.

[Amnesia]

I think both the replies are missing the point.

Let's look at an example:
Let's say you're in WoD and playing a SMN and there are no other SMNs or BLMs in your party. If a caster robe comes up and you select "Need", then the lotting on that item should end immediately and it should be yours. No one else is going to be able to get it.

[Ophie-Mio]

I think both the replies are missing the point.

I didn't miss the point. The point is that it wouldn't work for gear that is for multiple classes like healer and tank. There's also the point where the Loot system is designed for all content based upon roles and not individual jobs.

The point is that the Loot system is one thing meant to work for all instances of loot. Why bother to design more when one is sufficient and effective? If you have a problem with it, once again, I say, ask the people to lot or pass. Most immediately do so.

[Felis]

I didn't miss the point. The point is that it wouldn't work for gear that is for multiple classes like healer and tank. There's also the point where the Loot system is designed for all content based upon roles and not individual jobs.

The point is that the Loot system is one thing meant to work for all instances of loot. Why bother to design more when one is sufficient and effective? If you have a problem with it, once again, I say, ask the people to lot or pass. Most immediately do so.

Say in WoD are 2 healers (2 WHM, or 2 SCH, or 1 WHM and 1 SCH) and the healer body drop.
2 jobs can roll Need, the others Greed

Healer 1 roll Pass
Healer 2 roll Need
At this moment the system should know that the others can't get it whatever they roll, because they can only Greed it, and give the body to healer 2 instead of waiting for rolls that don't counts anyway