When rolling Need on an item

[DrOstler]

If I'm the only one who is able to roll need on an item can I please just be instantly rewarded with it instead of waiting for everyone else to cast their roll. I have a 100% chance of winning and I don't want to be waiting 5 minutes in a dungeon for my upgrade that would benefit us all just because some people wait until the last moment to roll or just don't at all.

[Ophie-Mio]

If I'm the only one who is able to roll need on an item can I please just be instantly rewarded with it instead of waiting for everyone else to cast their roll. I have a 100% chance of winning and I don't want to be waiting 5 minutes in a dungeon for my upgrade that would benefit us all just because some people wait until the last moment to roll or just don't at all.

No, because the lotting system does not change when it's 4-man vs 8-man vs 24-man. It's the same lotting system. In any other content, most of the time you have a partner that's the same role as you. So even if there is a 50% chance of you getting the item, no, you shouldn't just assume that it's yours if you need. Your request is assuming that the gear is yours no matter the party layout. That's fine in 4-man but in any other content, it doesn't work.

You're asking them to redesign something meant to blanket work for all other content. It's easier just to write in party, "Hey, can you pass or lot, please?"

[Yurihyuga]

No because even items I am the only one able to roll on there a button called pass because what if I don't want the item and someone could use it? Pass is there for a reason and sorry you just need to wait on people to roll. You could ask them to roll?

[Amnesia]

I think both the replies are missing the point.

Let's look at an example:
Let's say you're in WoD and playing a SMN and there are no other SMNs or BLMs in your party. If a caster robe comes up and you select "Need", then the lotting on that item should end immediately and it should be yours. No one else is going to be able to get it.

[DrOstler]

I'm not saying give it straight to me without pressing anything. I'm saying if I'm the only one who can roll need, and I roll need, give me it because any other roll is totally pointless at that point. Obviously I can roll pass, but, I rolled need, not pass, the item is mine already and im just waiting for no reason.

I think both the replies are missing the point.

Let's look at an example:
Let's say you're in WoD and playing a SMN and there are no other SMNs or BLMs in your party. If a caster robe comes up and you select "Need", then the lotting on that item should end immediately and it should be yours. No one else is going to be able to get it.

exactly

[Ophie-Mio]

I think both the replies are missing the point.

I didn't miss the point. The point is that it wouldn't work for gear that is for multiple classes like healer and tank. There's also the point where the Loot system is designed for all content based upon roles and not individual jobs.

The point is that the Loot system is one thing meant to work for all instances of loot. Why bother to design more when one is sufficient and effective? If you have a problem with it, once again, I say, ask the people to lot or pass. Most immediately do so.

[Yurihyuga]

ah fair point, definitely missed that point
+1 to the idea but i doubt it would happen cause SE is SE, would mean re coding the loot system. I already hear Yoshida "this would be difficult"

[Fynlar]

I do think that if someone hits Need, anyone else that can't hit Need should just be automatically forced to pass to save time. There's no real point in allowing them to lot, especially when we can't change our minds afterward and pass on an item after lotting it, like we could in FFXI.

[Snugglebutt]

The system is fine as it is, would be more effort than it's worth to recode the loot system just for that. You can always ask people to hurry up with their rolls if taking too long but there is a legitimate reason why people sometimes wait on loot rolls (which already has a timer on it), due to people abusing the vote kick system so they have better chance at the next drop or replacing that person with one of their friends for specific bosses. Generally though people would oblige if asked them to roll sooner but there is a good reason why some choose not to instantly roll and as such just ask them to roll. It is also possible people sometimes forget to roll, again asking them solves this so the system does not need recoding.

[DrOstler]

You're all saying it's too much effort to change this one thing, but this game needs a ton of QoL updates. This is just 1 of them. You could take any good QoL suggestion and say its not worth doing because it's only small, but that is the point, lots of small changes make a big difference.