Is ff 14. Too feminine?

[Eul]

Yeesh, it's getting pretty hostile up in here.

We were talking about gear a bit weren't we? You reckon we'll get the bunny ears soon? They have said we would right? Wonder if it'll be just the ears or if we'll get some outfit too. It'd be nice if there were two kinds like a suit kind of thing or perhaps hotpants, and then the classic bathing suit. One problem I have with super tight pants on the guys though is... I'd like there to be a bit more of a bulge. I'm so sorry if this makes anyone uncomfortable btw!

Seems to be quite a few fellow gay dudes in this thread. Just wanted to add that we have a hot tub downstairs in our FC house, and there's plenty of room. If ya know what I'm saying. *wink wonk*

For almost 2 years they STILL DIDN'T GIVE THAT DAMN BUNNY EARS FOR MALES! I'm like "f that thing I don't care with it anymore, f them for keeping us paying subs for those bloated female only gear" /rant

[Windi]

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Jpec never insulted femininity anywhere in his post. Also, you do realize that any type of bigotry falls under "preference" and "subjective opinions," right? The entire infrastructure of society is founded on subjectivity, and objectivity is fake.

Also in case you ask, I am butting-in to this conversation you are trying to start with him because you have a really bad habit of making yourself a strawman out of posts. Please actually read through things carefully because otherwise, you drive the discussion South.

[Dragon_Sanders]

Whatever others say. If "feminine" makes me happy, why not feminine?

[Nestama]

Whatever others say. If "feminine" makes me happy, why not feminine?

Because gear that looks good on lithe characters tends to look weird on muscular characters.

Exhibit A


Exhibit B

[Eul]

Whatever others say. If "feminine" makes me happy, why not feminine?

It's only good for average body like midlander, miqo'te, lalafell aura and elezen but looks really really weird to put into muscular race like roegadyn and highlander.

[DamianFatale]

I am disappointed in our community. Never had I thought I'd be unsafe here, but I guess I was wrong. People can't just play a game, they have to make it political, and bring their hate here, instead of just using it as entertainment. I come here to escape the hell I live in for a little bit each day, and now threads like this are a thing. I'm just getting more, and more disappointed with the community. We are acting like little children lately. I could care less about my homosexuality, or gender identity In this game. Just leave all of that in the real world, and don't make such a big deal of it here. Express yourself peacefully as you wish, and let life be.

[Theodric]

It's only good for average body like midlander, miqo'te, lalafell aura and elezen but looks really really weird to put into muscular race like roegadyn and highlander.

Even then it looks fairly out of place depending on how one chooses to design and envision their character. Far too much BRD and caster gear is androgynous and feminine in its design. It's absolutely fine for some of it to be that way, of course, though more variety would be delightful. This also applies to hairstyles and animations - I'd quite like a more conservative, formal dance emote for male characters.

[DamianFatale]

I am not intending this thread to insult people. It is just an issue occurred where my nephews were going to play ff with me noticed the little lady's day event and looked up the outfits in the game. Now they are telling me they are not going to play the game with me because it is too girly. Are we going a bit too far in the aesthetics department of design as of late in this depiction that would cause a lot of male players not to even try this game?

That fault is on the people raising your nephews. If they can't handle effeminate things, then help the children learn to accept it as it is. That's not the games fault. People shouldn't be forced to change their art style, just because someone elses children can't handle it.

[Masquerade]

Where exactly did Vlady expressly state femininity was bad?

"Now they are telling me they are not going to play the game with me because it is too girly."
"Are we going a bit too far in the aesthetics department of design as of late in this depiction that would cause a lot of male players not to even try this game?"

...these are not complainants...
He might not have came right out as said it was "bad" but he heavily implied it.
He wants it to change. Who wants to change something that they think is a good thing?

I can't speak for everyone, only for myself and the impression that iv gotten from recent posts in this thread..But with the Vlady's post being so old now, the recent posts are less about him, and more of just using him has an example. That post is just a jumping off point for current discussions.

[Windi]

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I can get behind your intent, but I really think you are demonstrating lack of fundamental understanding as to why words exist. They are tools for communication, and communication is dependent on meaning. When you are using words towards others without a mutual understanding as to what they mean, you risk the conversation running sour as, to another person, you are saying something completely different from what you intend to.

In this case, using those words makes me think you are insensitive to those of different sexual preferences than your own, rather than just using a cigarette or describing fabric.