RMT countermeasure idea (Yes another one just hear me out)

[Darki]

While you're quite correct in that it's impossible to stamp out completely, there are many games that have a much better handle on it than this one.

Indeed. This is why I called it a countermeasure instead of a cure.

The most effective approach would be to create a "report RMT" option right next to blacklist and have various restrictions triggered automatically when enough reports are received.

I wouldn't recommend this myself. I can see it too easily being used by large groups to gang up on a single person they don't like. Hunt "networks" for example. "Hey this jerk likes to pull hunts early and ruin the game for the rest of us! RMT report him and get him auto-banned!"

[Risvertasashi]

I wouldn't recommend this myself. I can see it too easily being used by large groups to gang up on a single person they don't like. Hunt "networks" for example. "Hey this jerk likes to pull hunts early and ruin the game for the rest of us! RMT report him and get him auto-banned!"

There are several games that use this successfully. The key is to have temporary, relatively light restrictions (no character on a so-flagged account can send tells, for example, but can still play) until a GM reviews. Accounts that abuse the report functionality, lose it.

And, at least there's a human intelligence making these reports. Automatic filter systems... too narrow and they're circumvented quickly (what we have now), too broad and mentioning the wrong term can get you autobanned.

[Zephyranthes]

Bots pay monthly subscriptions too. SE just turns a blind eye on them. This is a fact they're not admitting.

Anybody with an IQ of 50 can figure out that those people in BLM AF gear standing around Uldah's Aetheryte are bots. Yet, SE does nothing.

[Shadray]

If SE wanted to stop RMT they could, simple face is they make money from it, why would they stop them?

I bet there's a guy employed just to monitor RMT and hit the ban button when it makes the most cash for SE. I.e. When the guill sellers have made enough that it makes it worth their while to buy the game again and re-sub.

[WrenDark]

Made a new character tonight to visit a friend on Zalera. Not even passed the 1st cutscene. Got 10 RMT tells. Yeah, its that bad. Nice way to show new potential players how RMT infested some worlds are SE.

[ValkyrieL]

I'm sure SE can easily add filter to /tells but you have to ask your self...

Whats better?...Getting /tells from RMT....VS... getting /S /Shout /Yell from RMT?

The very moment SE restricts/filter the /tell chat, RMT will reprogram there bots to use the /S /Shout /Yell chats. and because of the range restrictions of this chats, you will than see REAL spam on the chat logs not just 1 tell from a single RMT bot.

If you look at your /tell log carefully, you might notice that you only got ONE or two RMT /tells from the same bot. This is because the odds are that RMT send mass /tells to everyone once or twice than a couple of minutes later they proceed to DELETE there character and make a NEW one thus bypassing the Blacklist filter.

this means that SE has to implement a character deletion/creation restriction just to combat RMT. T_T

*** When this game came out I was playing TERA and decided to give it a try as NEW player. the first thing new players are introduce to is RMT harassment non-stop. this became very irritating to me and I ragequit after lvl. 4. as I founded it unacceptable for a P2p game and still deciding to continue trying the game or go back to TERA. I went back to TERA. than it became F2P so came back to FF14 couple of month after Tera was f2p..

***I don't think there is a real automated solution but SE could do a bit more to slow them down. i.e lvl 10+ restriction ect. and GM monitoring of "ALL" severs which is not cost effective. go in as new character...right click/banned any RMT spam it receives...again this is just too much to monitor in all servers unless is automated.

[QiLymePye]

So here is my question for you guys...If SE decided to increase base subscription amount by an extra $1 just so it could have extra funds to combat RMT, would you all be ok with that? Now before someone post the typical "SE should have enough money already", and "I pay a sub, i should not have to deal with this", I'm saying, if SE cam out and said they are increasing the sub by one dollar (US of course) but the extra funds are going into a task force to combat RMT, would you be ok with that? I think I would. Just wanted you guys thoughts

[giantslayer]

***I don't think there is a real automated solution but SE could do a bit more to slow them down. i.e lvl 10+ restriction ect. and GM monitoring of "ALL" severs which is not cost effective. go in as new character...right click/banned any RMT spam it receives...again this is just too much to monitor in all servers unless is automated.

No, there is an automated solution. It is giving a chat log option to report RMT that systematically triggers restrictions when various thresholds of reports are reached.

[Gillionaire]

You're not asking the programmers to do something that
requires a herculean effort to accomplish.

When they can implement FC privilege settings so that a subordinate can't dismiss all his superiors other than the FC leader and promote himself to the highest ranking officer slot.. (yes, if somebody has promote/demote on their ranks, no matter if it's the lowest ranking officer, CAN demote/promote ANYBODY except for FC leader. He can also promote himself..) When SE figures THAT out, I'll have a little more faith in their programming abilities..


YES, boys and girls, you heard it here first! Now go to your FC, kick everybody off, promote yourself to highest ranking officer, and loot the fc chest.

Maybe when SE gets an influx of reports like this they'll implement a more logical FC privilege settings..

Also, why can't we choose how much/many from each tab a specific rank can take out of the chest? I wouldn't mind some of my lower ranking officers to be able to take out 100k or 200k here and there.. but when there are millions in the fc chest, there's no way for me to enforce any of that other than just trust.