Do you find Dungeons fun?

[Kosmos992k]

Yes, I do enjoy the dungeons - still. Must be something to do with the fact that I do not treat the game like a job and speed run the crap out of the content in pursuit of the fastest possible route to the Zodiak weapons. People who chase the upgraded relics like it must be done yesterday have my sympathy to an extent. But the truth is, the boredom that many players express with dungeons and other content is a consequence of trying to obtain the upgraded relic as quickly and efficiently as possible by speed running whatever is giving bonuses at the time, and ultimately burning those players out on that content. In other words, this is a self inflicted condition, at which point the extent of my sympathy has been reached and I can no longer sympathize.

I want to elaborate regarding dungeons because someone mentioned that they feel long and drawn out. To me, the point of playing this game is to play with friends, make new ones and have fun with the content in the game. The dungeons provide a reasonably relaxed way to play with friends and enjoy playing the game. Play is not only about vertical progression. In fact, the manic drive for progression seems to me to be very nearly incompatible with the idea of playing for fun, since the goal is progression, not merely fun.

Players who are on that vertical progression ladder describe older dungeons in terms of "old", "obsolete" or "irrelevant". The thing is, that content may be older than other content, but it is neither obsolete or irrelevant since those are both subjective assessments. To the player with ilvl 130 gear and T12 on farm and one or more upgraded relics, the older content might seem that way, but to the players who take their time, the older content is neither obsolete nor irrelevant.

I feel that players who have, in their view, left that older content behind, need to leave well enough alone and stop issuing derogatory remarks about that part of the game. The fact that in their view they have progressed beyond that content, does NOT alter the content, nor it's worth to other players. That comment is not aimed at anyone in this topic in particular.