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    New crafter looking for help/tips to be able to create HQ Silver Brocade

    Hey everyone. I'm pretty new to crafting, only having hit 50 weaver about a week ago. I'm in the process of leveling the other crafting classes, but it's going fairly slow due to my very low number of leves available. The highest second class I have is 37 cul, and I'm currently 26 carpenter trying to level to 50 to get Blessing.

    However, the assistance I'm looking for is this: What are the recommended stats and skills I will need in order to be able to comfortably craft the HQ Silver Brocade for the Artisan gear? Do I really need every class to 50? Or are there certain skills that aren't that necessary?

    Any tips/feedback would be appreciated.

    P.S. My weaver gear is currently all HQ Weaver (left side), HQ Dodore Belt and the accessories are all HQ BiS (Aetheryte rings, Mosshorn earrings, Rose Gold choker) and I just saved up and purchased a HQ Artisan Wheel. However, my main hand is only the normal Clotho. Some pieces are melded, some are not yet. I currently cannot post my stats due to being at work, however I will update this thread later tonight with my current Craftmaship, Control and CP.
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    Last edited by NorthernLadMSP; 03-23-2015 at 11:52 PM.

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    Vik Ktototam
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    To be normal 50 you must have Byregot's Blessing from crp 50. Before this you will be unable to craft <50 hq from nq and i55 hq even from hq.
    I also checked my 2* token scripts - they additionnaly uses Manipulation, Innovation (gsm 50), Steady Hand II (cln 37, you have) and Ingenuity II (bsm 50). Also you will need gear and melds to reach brokade stat requirements crship 347 and control 318
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
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    If WVR is your only lv 50 atm, you can just meld your WVR gear to cap. You'll be almost on par with a full artisan's set.
    But that's a tremendous waste of money just to get the stat bonuses to your WVR unless that's all you plan on doing with crafting.

    With the money you bought your spinning wheel, you probably could've bought 2 or 3 nq artisan gear straight off of the MB and just melded them to cap..
    If you've got that kind of money, you don't need to go through the artisan's token route for obtaining gear.

    Back on topic: to make 2 star hq, you'd need Byregots, SH2, CS2 as a bare minimum. Ingenuity 2 will definitely help too, but unless your goal is to 100% hq the brocades, i.e. if you're okay with making a bunch of nq ones because you're doing it just to get the artisan gear, you could try with just those 3.
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    Well, I'm not loaded, but I did manage to make a nice chunk in the first week to be able to buy the Artisan's Wheel. So, is the Artisan's gear (the kind you can "buy" in MD) not that useful? Or, is it more of a stepping stone to be able to craft your own set of the i60 stuff?
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    What are your stats exactly?Other then byregot being absolutely mandatory (you already have SH II) the other abilities are not a must but most will greatly help.
    If you post your stats we can figure out some rotations and abilities that would be best for you to get first.
    Note that the artisans off hand gives a lot of stats, so you are probably already capable of crafting them at a good rate once you got Byregots.


    Once you have Byregot youll be looking at a rotation something like this:


    http://link.ffxivcrafter.com/?id=cbfrz

    ----Macro 1----
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Hasty Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    ----Macro 2----
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    The only level 50 abilities that requires is CF II and Byregot's Blessing. You should be able to do it with a pretty low craftmanship level as well.
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    With my melds and new offhand, I definitely have the stats to make them without food. But, for sure, tonight when I get home and can log in, I will post my current stats.
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    MD gear is skippable, and the crafted artisan's is bis. Do some shouts and see what people are charging for synthing them with your own matts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squand View Post
    MD gear is skippable, and the crafted artisan's is bis. Do some shouts and see what people are charging for synthing them with your own matts.
    I will at some point. I haven't reached the point with my Ixali quests to be able to purchase sealants yet. But, once I can start getting those, I will take your suggestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    I will at some point. I haven't reached the point with my Ixali quests to be able to purchase sealants yet. But, once I can start getting those, I will take your suggestion.
    Key is to cut corners using NQ gear instead.

    For the artisan's set left gear, other than the apron, none of them have a very high meld cap.
    in fact, you can reach meld cap even with NQ version which gives you the same stats.
    So instead of buying hq at bloated prices, you can buy NQ sometimes for even less than the cost of mats, you slap on an extra 4 control and a tier 1 CP materia on it, and BAM! same as fully melded HQ gear.
    So you're basically looking to spend the extra cost of the Control 4 materia plus any materia lost from overmelding. But, Artisan's gear already has 3 materia slots in them, and your 4th and 5th melds are likely to be cheap materia anyway, so you can afford to make a sacrificial offering out of those to the RNGesus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    What are your stats exactly?
    Ok here are my current stats:

    360 Craftsmanship
    338 Control
    319 CP

    Currently, I have no materia melded onto any of my accessories, my belt or the Artisan Wheel.

    The rotations you posted before, how much CP do I need to pull those off?
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