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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    Is there actually an official Dev response to removing the GC requirement? People keep referencing one but I haven't seen anything specific.
    http://gamerescape.com/2015/03/09/pa...naoki-yoshida/:

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    At launch of Heavensward, we will have a new Frontline battle, with a new map and new rules. It will continue to be Grand Company based, but while before each Grand Company would start at a select location and the map, in Heavensward we will see a randomized starting location which will impact play. Armor rewards associated with Frontlines will also be updated. After that point they will update the Wolves Den.
    From the Pax east interview that gamerscape did. All of my sadness :/

    Though grand company based could mean anything, it doesn't have to mean they keeping GC restrictions so much as the names themselves. Then again this feels more like wishful thinking on my part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidolfas86 View Post
    Though grand company based could mean anything, it doesn't have to mean they keeping GC restrictions so much as the names themselves. Then again this feels more like wishful thinking on my part.
    I am also praying this is a translation issue. Until now every FL's map have been symetrical. I don't see how the starting position of the entire GC would affect anything at all. Please mean "but while before each player in a Grand Company would start at a select location and the map, in Heavensward we will see a randomized starting location which will impact play"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    I am also praying this is a translation issue. Until now every FL's map have been symetrical. I don't see how the starting position of the entire GC would affect anything at all. Please mean "but while before each player in a Grand Company would start at a select location and the map, in Heavensward we will see a randomized starting location which will impact play"
    I'm hoping so as well, but this is all the info thats available to go on at the moment since it seems like the PvP community in this game is a neglected red headed step child. I'm honestly surprized we got this much info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    Is there actually an official Dev response to removing the GC requirement? People keep referencing one but I haven't seen anything specific.
    Of course there isn't a real answer from them. They continue appeasing the carebears by keeping the GC stuff as is because of 'lore and immersion' instead of listening to the people who actually play the PvP content. They don't give a dog sh*t about us (PvP community). Excuse my tone, I'm just so over this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deelo View Post
    Of course there isn't a real answer from them. They continue appeasing the carebears by keeping the GC stuff as is because of 'lore and immersion' instead of listening to the people who actually play the PvP content. They don't give a dog sh*t about us (PvP community). Excuse my tone, I'm just so over this.
    Did you not see the post RIGHT ABOVE your post?!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iagainsti View Post
    Did you not see the post RIGHT ABOVE your post?!?!?!
    Saying they're going to keep it is not responding to the concerns, it's not even acknowledging it as an issue which a lot of the community rightfully thinks it is.
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    I think our best bet for getting a direct answer here will to be through Reddit. At both of the big US events Yoshi P attended this year, Pax East and Fanfest, the reddit mods were granted an interview and they asked questions from users.

    Here's a link from the PAX East interview: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ew_with_naoki/

    Yoshi P does listen to questions asked directly to him, you might remember the video from London Fanfest of a fan asking about the Spriggan hat that she had done a lot of treasure maps looking to find. He said that because she had done so many maps they would add it as a map reward in a future patch. Likewise, a question about a coil mount led to the ADS mount.

    Honestly our best bet here is the next time the reddit mods ask for questions for the next event, we have someone articulately ask the question and we all upvote/comment/make sure it gets a lot of attention.
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    I love how everyone always wants a frontlines with no GC requirement. It's simple, this should be about making 8-person Wolves' Den. Then subsequently upping the Wolves' Den rewards to be equal to Frontlines and issuing a roulette only queue system for PvP so you had 4-team/8 team Wolves' Den or Secure /Slaughter Frontlines. This is what PvP should be. None of this open world PvP...too much room for trolls...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyu20 View Post
    I love how everyone always wants a frontlines with no GC requirement. It's simple, this should be about making 8-person Wolves' Den. Then subsequently upping the Wolves' Den rewards to be equal to Frontlines and issuing a roulette only queue system for PvP so you had 4-team/8 team Wolves' Den or Secure /Slaughter Frontlines. This is what PvP should be. None of this open world PvP...too much room for trolls...
    Roulette-only queue system wouldn't work currently because the current PvP roulette doesn't allow parties. It's a solo Q only. Which is another gripe of mine... If they opened up the roulette to small parties I think it would help some of these issues and get more Secure matches going.

    Also, Arena and battlegrounds are two separate animals. Not everyone wants to do a straight deathmatch. People like me prefer the strategy an objective-based PvP instance provides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Wolf View Post
    Roulette-only queue system wouldn't work currently because the current PvP roulette doesn't allow parties. It's a solo Q only. Which is another gripe of mine... If they opened up the roulette to small parties I think it would help some of these issues and get more Secure matches going.

    Also, Arena and battlegrounds are two separate animals. Not everyone wants to do a straight deathmatch. People like me prefer the strategy an objective-based PvP instance provides.
    This is true, not that I don't like the idea of 8vs8 wolves den cause that I actually sounds pretty hot. But I've always prefered pvp game modes that made players do something more then ZERG, ZERG, ZERG. I had that at one point, sort of anyway, when old frontlines (secure) was the main pvp mode, but then here we are today and well.....yeah :/
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