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  1. #11
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    Aeyis's Avatar
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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistyMew View Post
    Maybe she indeed "should have" been able to save enough for a house, many of us have, but I would never ever be against ANY reduction...errrr why would anyone?
    So someone doesnt snag up the plot im trying to buy, just because they have been playing for way longer and decided they wanted that plot on some random day and instantly bought it; without saving up?
    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post

    Masamune (Legacy Server): Tonberry Minion - 990 gil (2015.03.11) vs X (Eu Server) - 60.000 - 90.000 gil. (Im not gonna reveal that EU server because of personal reasons)

    So yeah i know how to make money no matter the cost, but as you can see...
    whats not worth crap on my server is worth hell of alot more on other servers.
    Minions arent exactly stable sources of gil tho, so in my opinion thats a rather bad example. (even more so since you dont wish to reveal the eu server)
    On my own server there are hundreds of items capable of making that kind of money, altho some would take months of saving; others only days.
    If you know how to make money, you have been playing since 1.0; and you have available housing plots; there is literally not reason whatsoever to not have a house.
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    Last edited by Aeyis; 03-12-2015 at 03:35 AM.

  2. #12
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    Hale Storm
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    Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    We can't actually see that because you gave one item as an example. Hardly representative of your server's economy. Surely there are methods of making gil on your server.
    i guess i could list all the items and worth compared to another server but with the forum text limitations & time spent on doing that... i just wont
    So in short, nothing on my current server (masamune) not much or anything is worth anything.
    Everything has a low price on the markets, the only thing worth something is relic-weapon upgrade materials,
    and in this case i need to either gather myself, buy on markets (for high price) or craft myself.

    In wich turn i need best possible crafting & gathering gear. (including materia) now, if i spent money on that it is impossible for
    me to even cosidering buying a small house when the market value is not even flexible in any possible way.
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  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    If you know how to make money, you have been playing since 1.0; and you have available housing plots; there is literally not reason whatsoever to not have a house.
    No reason to have a house?
    I like to think having a house (being the ingame content & something i asked for myself) is suppose to be fun.

    Minions as an example is the only thing worth something, while doing off world trading / sales & come back with a fortune,
    however that fortune is limited by SquareEnix dev team to 1mil /character & if not mistaken 100.000 gil / retainer.
    In other words, i can transfer 1.4 mil on each server transfer. (and dont even call this RMT or scamming, it's legal)

    Actually screw this, seems you guys more interested in bashing how i make gil or not, instead you rather see wastedd ingame content go to waste.
    Rather than making it actually useful for really freakin dedicated players?

    All in all this housing idea and its details is going to waste.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laughlyn View Post
    In wich turn i need best possible crafting & gathering gear. (including materia) now, if i spent money on that it is impossible for
    me to even cosidering buying a small house
    when the market value is not even flexible in any possible way.
    So, which is it? Is everything worth nothing, or is it expensive?
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  5. #15
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    Inzoum's Avatar
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    Inzoum Zimia
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    Masamune's economy is CRAZY LOW. So much so that most items you'll encounter will sell more at NPc vendors than on the market. most attempts to make money yield pocket change, enough for duty roulettes to be the faster way to make Gil on this server. I don't think you realize how low prices are here, and how nearly impossible it is to make a profit by working the markets. This inability to make money by way of market and circulating funds make the NPC cost of items required for Relics, and housing prices HUGELY disproportionate.

    I know the market well. I'm a crafting god on this server. there is profit left to make on a few recipes, but it's peanuts...
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzoum View Post
    Masamune's economy is CRAZY LOW. So much so that most items you'll encounter will sell more at NPc vendors than on the market. most attempts to make money yield pocket change, enough for duty roulettes to be the faster way to make Gil on this server. I don't think you realize how low prices are here, and how nearly impossible it is to make a profit by working the markets. This inability to make money by way of market and circulating funds make the NPC cost of items required for Relics, and housing prices HUGELY disproportionate.

    I know the market well. I'm a crafting god on this server. there is profit left to make on a few recipes, but it's peanuts...
    How much does materia cost on your server? Savage Might/Aim IV, Craftsman's IV, Gatherer's IV.

    Got the info.

    Savage Might IV: 185k

    Savage Aim IV: 180k

    Competence IV: 135k

    Command IV: 95k

    Guerdon IV: 130k

    Grasp IV: 93k

    Mastercraft Demimateria: 40k

    I'm sorry. You guys are screwed.
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    Last edited by MomomiMomi; 03-12-2015 at 06:11 AM.

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    How much does materia cost on your server? Savage Might/Aim IV, Craftsman's IV, Gatherer's IV.
    100-200k depending on what you've mentionned... grade III nothing zbove 9k. Crit and Acuracy Grade II are 20k and by far the better option to make gil with materia, due to the lesser impact of RNG and greater ease of spiritbonding. Still peanuts, the greater cost is time
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  8. #18
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    Yeah, I see that now. Edited above post. What the heck is wrong with your server's economy?

    You have 18 syrcus shards on the MB at 90k. What the hell.

    41 fat cats. By the Twelve...

    Megalodons for 570 gil. I can't. I can't look anymore.
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    Last edited by MomomiMomi; 03-12-2015 at 06:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MomomiMomi View Post
    Yeah, I see that now. Edited above post. What the heck is wrong with your server's economy?

    You have 18 syrcus shards on the MB at 90k. What the hell.

    41 fat cats. By the Twelve...

    Megalodons for 570 gil. I can't. I can't look anymore.
    Wow.. that certainly put my foot in my mouth..

    But that sounds like a nice opportunity to make gobs of gil. Consider moving to Jenova, regular shards are constantly going for 120-150 (wind shards are actually 200+ atm)
    Savage Aim/Might are usually 500k+ sometimes even 800k+
    Syrcus Shard 1.1m on MB right now

    Fat Cats 3.9m!

    Buy a dozen fat cats and make mansion money right off the bat.
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  10. #20
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    anywayz, im gonna make a suggestion to SE's dev team.

    Instead of maybe lowering the price to buy a house no matter what size.

    How about letting me rent one for x amount of time?
    (I dont mind making up the monthly rent/quota to pay the fee)

    Or maybe even consider adding this small option to players that cant afford full price of a small house straight away?

    Someone please get me that darn Goblin-bank manager, i need to take out a loan. (i hope you get my intentions here mr Yohshi-P)
    I really enjoy the housing feature and im pretty sure Inzoum that posted above can vouch for that.

    But i kinda feel bad for our FC members, after i've been wrecking havok in the house garden & completly overhauled the house.
    Not to mention all the members that might never get the freedom / option to even try out this fantastic feature!?

    What about the players that arnt allowed to mess with the house / garden?

    You cant argue with this being a BAD idea, because you know what?... it's a damn good one!
    More fun for the playaz!
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