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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    What about the F2P success stories? Like World of Tanks and Destiny. Hmm? If a F2P failed, it was because it was a BAD GAME to begin with. Not because it wasn't P2P.

    F2P haters' gonna hate. Easy to blame things on a label. Hard to back it up w/ facts though.
    As someone who has been around to a few (dozen) different MMOs over the years, the game's actual quality is often mutually exclusive from its pay model.
    I've seen plenty of bad games thrive when good games get the shaft because advertising and pay models are handled poorly. Did you know Horizons (now called Istaria) is still around while City of Heroes got shut down?
    And let me tell you, while it had flaws, CoH was definitely not a bad game. Niche, definitely, but not bad.
    Horizons, on the other hand, was so legendary in its lack of quality and changed hands so many times that they had to change the game's name completely to disassociate it from its former reputation (may also be copyright reasons, see "changed hands so many times"). It bills itself as a "crafting MMO." Then shows screenshots of the combat system. Yeah.
    Games go F2P when they're not financially viable as a P2P game for the parent company, or when the parent company thinks they can squeeze more money by going F2P. The game's quality isn't often taken into consideration.
    But while pay model may be mutually exclusive from the game's quality (usually), it's not mutually exclusive from its attractiveness to customers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorel View Post
    So there is a new interview with Naoki Yoshida and one of the things that is asked is how Final fantasy will compete with The Elder Scrolls Online.

    Here is the full interview

    http://www.pangamers.com/gaming/fina...g/#comment-594.

    I don't think the Final Fantasy series has anything to worry about. It's been around for 28 years, so it has a huge fan-base and seems to always be in the top 5 on popular mmo gaming sites. FFXI is a great game with tons of features, and is just fun to play

    For FFXI - I think the only thing they need to do aside from adding regular expansions is keep it's look modernized by updating character skin textures and the in game lighting to stay competitive with the newer mmos coming out like Bless, and Black Desert. Other than that - the game is awesome.
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    f2p = poor support, 1-2 years for quality content patches, ages 8-17
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    Although Blizzard have said they will unlikely go F2P with WoW as it would mean redesigning a lot of the game which would be a huge undertaking, they do plan to make their next MMO free to play.

    I personally prefer subscription mmos they have more content and it is released much quicker.
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    F2P and WoW's 8-bit NES graphics are what has destroyed the MMO genre.

    F2P means 'Pay 2 Win' no matter how they try to sell it. Some devs are just more creative on why it takes a few hundred dollars to obtain some in-game BiS item.

    I'll just leave MMO's if I run out of subscription options. It's bad enough I considered WoW before FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Although Blizzard have said they will unlikely go F2P with WoW as it would mean redesigning a lot of the game which would be a huge undertaking, they do plan to make their next MMO free to play.

    I personally prefer subscription mmos they have more content and it is released much quicker.
    Blizzard scraped the new MMO they had been working on for close to ten years...

    It was called Titan.

    They reused some of the assets from the game and turned it into a FPS called Overwatch. So much fail what a waste...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorel View Post
    Blizzard scraped the new MMO they had been working on for close to ten years...

    It was called Titan.

    They reused some of the assets from the game and turned it into a FPS called Overwatch. So much fail what a waste...
    That's what they said.
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    Free to play will be my last day in Eorzia.
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    Even if YoshiP was joking, it's a sound statement. People cry about people following WOW, but when something succeeds so strongly, it's kind of hard not to. And with WOW still being the staple in MMO success, if it were to go F2P, it's sure to create a ripple. But then again WoW isnt XIV or Elder Scrolls Online, and clearly the developer knows this.

    That said, I think above all YoshiP is a lover of games himself. The way he talks about it, i highly doubt this game will be going F2P. No self-respecting MMO player wants an F2P game.
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