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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrZ View Post
    I'll be nice and give you guys one more hint, he has a total of 75 cp wasted in the his standard rotation, regardless of being a boolean guide or not.

    Sad that SE is focusing on casual crafters in 3.0 rather than dedicated crafters that invest time and money into getting a good rotation down, rather than looking for hand me outs.
    Let me guess,

    Replace PbP with Rapid Synth, 30CP
    2 Observes, 28 CP.
    Add another CZ, 14 CP.
    Swap SH2 with SH for Byregot's finisher, 3CP.

    Total 75CP?

    I don't think that rotation's possible as a fresh 3 star crafter though..


    But keep going, I like this game.. and who knows what I might learn from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillionaire View Post
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    RS cannot replace PBP for all gear situation. The first PBP is 240 points. In comparison, a RS under Ingen II is like 150 to 190 depending of your craftmanship. And I dont see why you would wait Lucis to get Master book II. So it's more likely 160 than 180. The second PBP is questionable, it's around 170 points worth.

    2 Observes, 28 CP, please tell me what skill to bait. That's something I'd like to improve.

    I often place a third CZ. But hard to make it appear in a rotation as the cast is highly TOTT dependent.

    The 3 CP of SH instead of SH2... hmm... you often want to add a HT under the last SH. Which mean you'll want a SH2 for 10 additional percents.

    Ho and Zephyr, you should read the main entry of my guide. These rotations are not for accomplished crafters but more a "jump-in". What you propose is mostly situation-dependent, so it's pretty hard to write it correctly in a guide. But I'll consider these.
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    Check my crafting rotations guide on lodestone (1/2/3/4 stars crafting rotations + 1/2 stars mass production macros) :
    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3107072/blog/1988386/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdombeer View Post
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    Oh I'm aware, I was just trying to come up with the 75 cp figure which could be considered "superfluous" and yes, that only works for high craftsmanship plus the RS are 80% and not 90% like PbP.
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    My message was in fact adressed to Zephyr, even if the quote is from your post (you do provide concrete informations while Zephyr apparently loves trolling).

    The fact that PBP is 90% let also use it out of a SH2. To be faire, the price of PBP should be reduced by around 1/4 of the SH2 cost. I would count more 10 CP if the second PBP is replaced by a RS.

    What I'd like to get from Zephyr is an optimization of my rotation that is working (because the 75 CP is just fancy trolling, you wont get them all at once), that do only require 4 TOTT (-80 CP at the end), and that conserve the 2 baits which are essential to get a Good condition on materials. I'll try to find a solution when I have a bit of time. But I must invest more the replacement of the second PBP by a RS under 400-420 craftmanship. I dont even think it's working or worth it.
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    Check my crafting rotations guide on lodestone (1/2/3/4 stars crafting rotations + 1/2 stars mass production macros) :
    http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3107072/blog/1988386/