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    Once im in tonight will work it out properly, i always manual craft never ever macro. I adjust my rotations constantly depending on cp and rng fun-ness
    Theres only certain crafts where you can actually fit in both waste not's as cross skills, i stayed away from wn when first reaching 3star all that time ago but upon doing ltw master books i gave it a shot, since then waste not II is always in my cross skills and with space WNII
    I still use masters mend II for the first stage off the top of my head
    CZ > IQ > SHII > PBP > PBP > RS > HT > HT (refresh SHII and CZ during this phase if plenty of good pops) may also be 2 RS cant remember
    I take to either 20/80 10/80 depending when a SHII will fall off all depends on RNG goods
    MMII now depending on cp and cz procs left i either pop SHII > WN (knowing that with no good pops i can still finish the BB phase of GS > Inno > Ingen > BB > CSII x2?
    However if cp looks healthy enough to take a WNII rotation i will stick it in
    With WN you can take 1 good proc without effecting its use

    Sounds a bit confusing i know, but with these books the rotation can change quite a bit and it's pointless sticking to a strict rotation

    if all goes to plan roughly 3 ht's from first 80/80 > 20/80 phase
    WNII phase 80 > 45/80 (7 x HT) + 2 x HT to take to 25/80, BB phase leaving 15/80 for 2 x CSII finish

    12 touches in total im missing some this i know XD

    i will be toying around with a rotation tonight involving no MMII

    Now in terms of the MMII vs WNII debate
    i wrongly put SHII as 22cp we know its 25cp so

    WNII 148 cp (includes 2x SHII) 8 Touches available 35/80 (which is still 4 durability turns available)
    MMII 190 (includes SHII + 1/5 of the SHII to cover) 6 durability given
    WNII 148÷8 touches = 18.5 per touch
    MMII 190÷6 touches = 31.66 per touch

    MMII dont get me wrong should be used unless another way is found without it, but the choice here really is between what we use after the first MMII phase whether it be a 2nd MM/MMII/Manipulation/WN/WNII

    WNII comes out on top by along way
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    Last edited by Stupiduglytaru; 03-14-2015 at 12:43 AM.