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  1. #21
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    Gillionaire's Avatar
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    Pippi Longstocking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post
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    That's just semantics.
    Lucis ARE indeed crafter's version of relics. Why?
    Because when expansion rolls around, having all the lucis tools + artisan's gear fully melded WILL indeed grant you an advantage to advancing to the next tier of crafting.
    I imagine when heavensward first rolls out, new crafting mats will be very costly. Yet, there will still be people buying them (I hope to be one of those people) to be the server first 5star crafter or whatever and make money on monopolizing the market for a short while. and having the best tools will probably let you get away with having to use a little bit less of them.

    If somebody's simply uninterested in that, and don't mind waiting a few weeks to progress then by all means, skip Lucis. But if you intend to compete in the race to the top, then you might as well get'em all.

    Besides, there are still 3 months left and if you can't see a way to make back that 2-3million you'll have spent on it in 3 months, your crafting is not very profitable. (No right or wrong answers there, some people don't craft for profit and I understand that, but that's my main motivation and I think lucis is definitely worth the trouble with 3 months to go)
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  2. #22
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    Eros Maxima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillionaire View Post
    That's just semantics.
    Lucis ARE indeed crafter's version of relics. Why?
    Because when expansion rolls around, having all the lucis tools + artisan's gear fully melded WILL indeed grant you an advantage to advancing to the next tier of crafting.
    I imagine when heavensward first rolls out, new crafting mats will be very costly. Yet, there will still be people buying them (I hope to be one of those people) to be the server first 5star crafter or whatever and make money on monopolizing the market for a short while. and having the best tools will probably let you get away with having to use a little bit less of them.

    If somebody's simply uninterested in that, and don't mind waiting a few weeks to progress then by all means, skip Lucis. But if you intend to compete in the race to the top, then you might as well get'em all.

    Besides, there are still 3 months left and if you can't see a way to make back that 2-3million you'll have spent on it in 3 months, your crafting is not very profitable. (No right or wrong answers there, some people don't craft for profit and I understand that, but that's my main motivation and I think lucis is definitely worth the trouble with 3 months to go)
    That's right... but semantics are important to understand, otherwise, as I stated in the very first sentence, a misunderstanding occurs. I'm not arguing the advantages of having it (again, as I stated already in that reply). I'm stating that there's not going to be some continued reason to have it besides leveling advantages, unlike the actual relic weapons, which is what the person I quoted was saying. Not entirely sure why you think semantics aren't important when the misused term itself was the very reason for doing something LOL. It'd be like me claiming the i55 crafting armors are "relics" and because Yoshi-P said that relics will have some form of continued existence in Heavensward, you should keep them around. Nor am I clear on why you think I'm saying that the Lucis gear won't provide leveling advantages.
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  3. #23
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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    We have a couple months and the Lucis I have done so far have been easy so why not? I have the time and it makes current crafting easier.
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    Faelandaea Dravin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mishini_Dracoto View Post
    So, Somebody else posted something in here I thought was hilarious. he said it's a waste to get Luci, but he's getting is Zodiac b/c Ypshi said he won't scrap Relics.

    FYI -> Supra / Lucis are crafting Relics.

    It's a good question, I'm hoping they continue to get upgraded. when 3.0 comes out, they will either be replaced or upgraded. I'm not chancing it, I'll be getting all of my Luci's before June.
    Yeah that was me but I made the comment about the Relic in addition to the convo about Luci as I thought both were related as far as people wondering about the future of Lucis. In my guess, if they aren't going to leave the main Relic users in the dust, it stands to reason that they may take care of the crafters as well.
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  5. #25
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    Eternity Godslayer
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    I'm reading all replys o/ really ty guys +_+ i'm really worried if my lucis will be upgrated to another weapon, or they will add a new weapon saga in 3.0 and lucis will be useless x.x
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  6. #26
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    The way I see it is, get it if you want, ignore it if you don't. Either way the game will have to take care of new players who pick up the game after 3.0, meaning the Lucis will not be required to reach the same footing as everyone else in the 3.x end-game. If you like the idea of being the owner of the Lucis tools, then get them.

    As with the Relic, they will give consideration to holders of the Relic weapon, hence it's reasonable to expect some consideration to holders of the Lucis tools when in 3.0 or 3.1 we reach end-game crafting.

    Beyond that, nobody, absolutely nobody, outside of the dev team has anything solid. So in the end it's your own decision. I do want to say, though, it's a game, you'd be better off playing the game and stop worrying about if something's "worth it" or not. In the grand scheme of MMORPG expansions, nothing's worth it. :3
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  7. #27
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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Ya much like the tools from 1.0 that you gained through achievement, Lucis may serve a similar purpose. They will be an advantage for those who got them but potentially a tool of equal value will be obtainable that isn't as hard to get as Lucis.

    With that in mind however there is still the case of recipes needing to be obtained for any new crafter and potentially said materials could be used as parts for housing/Airships.
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