Thread: Lucis weapons will be usefull for 3.0? ( not sure if i get all )

Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

That's honestly a very bad reason to not do coil.

Something people don't seem to understand-no one raids for gear. If they do they're an idiot.

Nice that you cannot accept that different people and cultures exist in gaming. It's a sad fact, but most people DO raid for the gear. That's the entire point of raiding is to get the loot and the completion. I get PLENTY of social experience from running beginner dungeons like CT and Odin. If I want a social experience I'll stick to those, and to be honest farming ST/WoD and daily roulette for Poetics, and doing my weekly for CT, gives me the same level gear as I'd get from Coil, only without tearing my hair out with 50,000 wipes due to mechanics and then hoping I MIGHT get the winning roll.

If you have a different reason for doing Coil, I accept that and I am fine with it, but don't insult people because their reasons for playing a part of a game are different from yours. That kind of closed mindedness is anything BUT the social person you claim to be. Your attitude alone just contradicted the entire point you were trying to make with your post.

Originally Posted by Eidolon

Mind you, I love the people I raid with most the time. That makes it more pleasant though.

Hehe so true. Getting along with your team is definitely an added bonus.

Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

That's honestly a very bad reason to not do coil.

Something people don't seem to understand-no one raids for gear. If they do they're an idiot. People raid for the social experience with their friends (or to make new friends) while accomplishing something challenging and experience content that the general public isn't able to do. Sometimes bragging rights, as well.

That's what raiding is. It's especially true in this game when half the good gear is on the VERY LAST BOSS of the current coil, at that point gear is especially pointless because you'll only use it to kill the same bosses over again until patch.

Gear is replaced easily, memories are never lost.

Just so you know, that basically means EVERYONE who DFs content more than once, hoping for a drop = idiot. While there are many idiots that you'll meet, they're idiots for reasons beyond wanting gear lol. Speaking as someone who did raids primarily during the golden age of MMORPGs (aka vanilla WoW and FFXI), you did it for the gear. The memories come with the desire for the gear, not the other way around. Maybe a handful of people did it mostly for the social aspect, but that priority wasn't very far from wanting the drop they could use. Likewise, for many, the priority of gear probably wasn't too far off from the fun of raiding with friends, but it was still the priority (see majority reason). If gear wasn't what you wanted, there'd be no reason to farm said content, but raid groups ALWAYS DO (including the final boss of a raid tier).

On topic though, Lucis is most definitely going to be replaced and forgotten. I wouldn't bother besides for self accomplishment reasons, or you need the stats immediately for one reason or another. Perhaps you just don't have anything else to work on (like with MGP) or are bored. If it's for expansion reasons however, don't bother.

So, Somebody else posted something in here I thought was hilarious. he said it's a waste to get Luci, but he's getting is Zodiac b/c Ypshi said he won't scrap Relics.

FYI -> Supra / Lucis are crafting Relics.

It's a good question, I'm hoping they continue to get upgraded. when 3.0 comes out, they will either be replaced or upgraded. I'm not chancing it, I'll be getting all of my Luci's before June.

Originally Posted by Mishini_Dracoto

So, Somebody else posted something in here I thought was hilarious. he said it's a waste to get Luci, but he's getting is Zodiac b/c Ypshi said he won't scrap Relics.

FYI -> Supra / Lucis are crafting Relics.

It's a good question, I'm hoping they continue to get upgraded. when 3.0 comes out, they will either be replaced or upgraded. I'm not chancing it, I'll be getting all of my Luci's before June.

See, that's actually where a misunderstanding occurs. They're not relics actually, at least not something literally implied to be, as there's never been any sort of indication that they are, besides that they're a class/job specific main hand. The quests that you do for the i55 original have zero to do with the weapon, but rather the overall storyline for the craft and you're just given the equip by default. They're basically only a trademark tool, mainly because it's what you see the crafting guild head NPCs use. The "relic" term being applied to the crafting tools is a player-applied term to make it easier to grasp what someone is talking about.

Maybe they will have some use though in the expansion, besides leveling assistance, and since you don't want to chance it, by all means go for it.

I'd have a hard time finding it again. But I think I recall a live letter when Yoshi talked about the concept of relics for crafting and gathering being an interesting one and shortly after that we got supra (and now the lucis) upgrading from the original MHs.