Final Smash Fantasy: Melee XIV

[Spayd]

So, I kinda like reading threads about melee capacities and stuff, and since there's 3615 thread about SMN/BLM to overkill you for days, I want this thread to be about everything melee related. Let's call it a Melee Job General thread. So you can discuss anything like DPS, Utility, Rotations, Comparisons against other melee jobs, positional, and most of all, for new people to this game, don't hesitate asking question concerning any of the three melee jobs.

So, any of you guys think Melee are too op in this game, or think it's well balanced against ranged dps who seem to not appreciate the fact that we are getting more dps than them?

[Mibhas]

Melee have the disadvantage of, well, having to stand right next to whatever they're attacking, so it makes sense for them to have better DPS to even that out. Fights are usually designed around a mixed party composition (imagine trying to take four melee into T13; you can pick straws to choose people who have to move away for Megaflare), so it's pretty balanced.

[Slappah]

No melee aren't op at all.

There's various pros and cons for both melee and ranged classes.
Even in PvP you see balance between melee and ranged with ranged classes being able to CC someone from afar and tear them up, but at the same time a melee can rush a target and CC them and deal out some serious burst to blow someone up.

In PvE there's a lot of AoEs that ranged dps simply don't have to deal with, but that can go the other way too with some AoEs only targeting ranged.

[Skeith-Adeline]

You can clear Final Coil with 4 melee. The jobs aren't imbalanced–the fights are. Granted though, if we merge a little realism into this, a Monk shouldn't be top DPS.

[Donjo]

You can clear Final Coil with 4 melee. The jobs aren't imbalanced–the fights are. Granted though, if we merge a little realism into this, a Monk shouldn't be top DPS.

There's the classic argument for this of "the Monk isn't pushing the deeps by hitting hard, they're pushing it by hitting many many times very fast", but did you notice how this directly translates into the attack animations? Monks have more animations that hit multiple times than any other class, I believe.

Bootshine: 4 hits
Twin Snakes: 2 for one
Dragon Kick: I think this hits twice, but the breakdance could be confusing
Demolish: 5 hits

There's also the element of hitting pressure points, ala Touch of Death, but realism really does falter when one considers using such things against robots. Yo, Avatar! I'm going to make your... organs fail? Huh?

[Blueskyy]

You can clear Final Coil with 4 melee. The jobs aren't imbalanced–the fights are. Granted though, if we merge a little realism into this, a Monk shouldn't be top DPS.

Then who should be?

[Leonus]

Then who should be?

If we were to consider blms magic realism, the blm.

Followed by drg and nin probably.

[Almalexia]

You can clear Final Coil with 4 melee. The jobs aren't imbalanced–the fights are. Granted though, if we merge a little realism into this, a Monk shouldn't be top DPS.

That's right. You are completely correct. Gunpowder and mechanized warfare will forever replace our primitive pointed sticks and clenched fists. I expect no less than a 99% Machinist adoption rate.

If you are not already looking forward to it, please do.

[Sunako]

Since we are talking about melee do SMN ifrit count for that?