Dealing with resource management

[Urthdigger]

So, I recently had a rather stressful DR EX. Bard and a Black Mage, Bard running Foe's and the Black Mage well-geared. No matter how hard I pushed, they were riding my ass for hate the entire time (and it didn't help that I'd lose hate if I even DARED to apply Maim). So, this meant overpower spam, Infuriate+Steel Cyclone, and flash, and finishing every pull with something to the tune of 50 MP and 100 TP. Since I literally needed ALL my resources each fight, this meant waiting for them to recover each time before proceeding.

So, I know the DPS were probably getting antsy as hell waiting on my sorry ass, but what the heck should I have done? It's crap like this that makes me think there needs to be TP recovery pots (and potions need a very short recast timer), or tank gear needs to natively be much stronger than DPS gear. Unless I outgear them to the point where I can relax towards the end of the pull or use single-target, I just wind up wasting time anyway.

[SpookyGhost]

Unchained OP spam > SC, should allow you to put up Maim easier as well.

If you're not wearing STR accessories, using those would help a lot with aggro generation.

Something to remember is you don't have to be miles ahead of DPS on threat, just enough that they won't pull off you.

Berserk pacification will usually help you with any TP issues in 4m dungeons, but if it doesn't that's more on the DPS for not killing the things quicker.

[Urthdigger]

In this case I had been using Unchained when it was up, as well as berserk and bloodbath (don't know for sure if the self-healing helps my enmity, but it can't hurt). I don't have strength accessories, but I don't have the funds to even purchase a set of platinum accessories, let alone fully meld them, and I'm a little hesitant to drop my vitality for ironworks slaying accessories as I'm only at 11k HP and some parties struggle keeping me up on bigger pulls. Also in this particular case, I tried putting up Maim but would lose hate when I did. The BLM was regularly at... I wanna say 80% of my DPS. I imagine they had full BiS gear, whereas my stuff is mostly via poetics.

I'll be honest, this is kinda discouraging and making me want to drop my tank. Seems if you don't have a ton of playtime that you focus exclusively into gearing it, you can't play a tank >.>

[Lyzern]

I know what you mean, I have an i107 Warrior and whenever I get grouped with i120+ DPS (Specifically BLMs), I feel the same as you.

Never seen a single one use Quelling Strikes, because apparently it's my job to hold aggro, not their job to control aggro. Obviously we're not a team that should colaborate, just people trying to compete on who does their job best.

[Slappah]

You won't need 11k hp for anything in this game, at all.


MAYBE for fcob progression but even then 10k is the max you should ever strive for, anything over 10k and it's time to switch to str accessories, imo.

Especially for dungeons..you can drop a ton of hp for dungeons

[PetiteMalFleur]

You don't need to get a full set of melded gear. Replace a couple of your accuracy/parry heavy stuff stuff for strength accessories, favoring those with crit/det. Respec full strength. You don't need 11k hp. Cross class internal release. Pop it on the pull and use it everytime it's off CD.