Mini-Lottery: Maybe a BIT more fairness?

[Kumabear76]

Well, I'm a professional game designer, too and a core rule of game design is, that a player should NEVER feel out of control or losing by bad luck.

Good luck is okay. Bad luck a no go. As a game designer, you have to creat flow, for this you need to find this small line between boring (too easy) and annoying (too hard, unfair), empowered by moments of success. A lottery working like this does not fulfill this, because you can only do it one time per day or week and while it IS a moment of success for someone who actually get such a 10k prize, for those who don't get it, it is a moment of disappointment, a bad thing in game design.

You are, in part, correct. A player shouldn't feel like they aren't in control... when it it something major. Flow is perfectly understandable when designing a good story or level design. NOT when discuss a gambling game. Gambling is about risk vs reward. Higher risk = higher reward. Lower risk = lower reward. Gambling is all about the emotional ups and downs you feel from winning AND losing. Yes, people lose. It's a fact of life. It's also a factor in gaming. Don't believe me? Play Dark Souls I & II. Those games wouldn't be so ridiculously successful if people hated losing. Also, losing by random factor is bad? Play some PvP games. You will lose. It will seem unfair. You may get put up against others and have a huge skill gap between you. They may cheat. They may grief. They may whoop you bad.

But you may also get lucky and snipe them for the win.

It's rare, but it could happen. And OH GLORY DAY, how awesome that makes you feel when it happens. Why does it feel so good? Because, against all odds, you won. You beat the odds.

If everything was made easier, that feeling wouldn't feel so grand. Instead it's more like "look, I got another 10k, lulz. I should have Fenrir in no time."

THAT, to me, would make everything truly boring.

As for my concept of "that people will stop playing Gold Saucer because others get items" being "absurd", let me paint a picture for you:

New patch comes out with new items. People scramble for these new items. Even though the new items are nowhere near good or better than current gear (ie Urth's Font drops), players want it. Why? Because it's new and not a lot of people have it. They want bragging rights. They want to look at this cool reward and shove it into everyone else's face and say "look what I got!" or hold it feeling satisfied that they have something unique and cool.

Give it a few weeks and what happens? Oh, well damn, now half the server has Odin gear. No one really cares anymore. It's isn't as impressive anymore. Players are saying "look at me!" and other think "yeah, my buddies and I have had that for a while". THAT is demotivational. To compare vanity gear to actual dungeon gear is also like comparing apples to oranges, btw.

And don't think for a moment, I didn't see what you did. By adding a reply to my post before people see my post, you have set it up for you to have the first shots from readers and my post feels like the rebuttal. It was a deliberate move to discredit my response and totally bad form.

Because of your tactics, I am no longer going to reply to this thread and I encourage everyone else to leave this post be. The OP will not listen to anyone else and will stand firm on his/her beliefs of how they are saving the player base, even though most of the player base is too busy actually enjoying the content.

Good day.

[Niwashi]

It's totally fair. Every time you play, you have the exact same chance as everybody else at having that 10,000 prize on your card.
Sometimes you'll win a lot. Sometimes you'll win a little. Sometimes you'll lose. Completely fair.

This is a game, it got nothing to do with life.

Well, it is different from real life lotteries. In those you'll rarely win anything. Here you'll rarely lose.

[DarkmoonVael]

The title should reflect the content of your post, yes. Your title, and your major complaint, is about the mini cactpot. Your "solutions" don't have to do with cactpot. As such, you have chosen your title and complaints very poorly.

You should have just made a post saying that the reward for chocobo racing should be increased, in which case, you would have probably gotten nobody opposing your post.

I dropped in to see what was going on, and saw that i dont even need to respond to the OP responding to my last post . Thanks Momomi Momi, this post sums up everything nicely

Now hopefully the OP will stop asking me if i can read.......

[Vidu]

Well, it is different from real life lotteries. In those you'll rarely win anything. Here you'll rarely lose.

If you clever you'll never lose infact - 8 lines to pick, only 6 numbers will give you less than your spended 100 MGP - yeah thats still not guranteed 10k for everybody for almost free - but you can play this game without the risk of losing any MGP... but I forgot... not getting the highste price everytime is unfair and not fun...

[Welsper59]

I've been getting the daily lottery everyday, but only seen the 10k twice (won both of them). Most other occasions have had the 180 to 300-something prize as the max. Honestly, the gambling aspect (a RL RNG factor) is the appeal to doing it. You know those people that stop by a gas station to pick up a lottery ticket every day before/after work? Yeah, you're one of them now. Have a nice day.

[Hexy]

Look, last week I won the 10k 3 times in a row. And now this week, I haven't won more than 180. It's a GAMBLE. Not every ticket is going to be a winner. You're not meant to get MGP as quickly as get gil. The Gold Saucer games are supposed to mimic casino games, that's why you can't even buy more than 500 MGP at a time. If you want MGP to buy the pretty coat or shiny new ride, you either get lucky or you grind. It's working as intended.

Honestly, it sounds like you are whining because SE won't instantly give you the shiny new toys. Heaven forbid you actually try to play at a real casino.

[Niwashi]

If you clever you'll never lose infact - 8 lines to pick, only 6 numbers will give you less than your spended 100 MGP

But the unrevealed spots can in some cases make it impossible to avoid all 6 of those losing possibilities with complete certainty. (And I'll take a 2/5 or 3/5 chance of losing a few points when it comes with a 1/5 chance of winning 10,000.)

[Niwashi]

I get that its a lottery and RNG is supposed to be a big factor, but it would be nice if tickets at least had a chance to win some decent amount

They do ALL have a chance to win a decent amount. There are 13 winning possibilities and only 6 losing ones. Even if it were possible for all 6 losing sums to be on the same card (which I don't think it is), you'd still have other winning sums that you might pick on that same card. Even the lowest 8 MGP win is a decent amount for the 5 seconds or so it takes to play it, and all the others are fantastic returns for such a quick scratch game.

If by "a chance to win some decent amount" you really mean they should all have a chance to win the 10,000, then it would simply be a daily trade of 100 MGP for 10,000 MGP, because nobody would ever pick anything else. It's supposed to be a daily lottery, not a daily allowance.

[Ooshima]

In summary, OP just want better aka faster ways to obtain MGP so that he/she can have the Fernir mount ASAP.

God forbids this game to have anything that appears to be difficult to obtain or exclusive, every one needs to have the Cloud Card, the Nanamo Card, the Fernir + Adamantoise mount and both Gambler and Bunny sets in a month max.

[StouterTaru]

They do ALL have a chance to win a decent amount. There are 13 winning possibilities and only 6 losing ones. Even if it were possible for all 6 losing sums to be on the same card (which I don't think it is), you'd still have other winning sums that you might pick on that same card. Even the lowest 8 MGP win is a decent amount for the 5 seconds or so it takes to play it, and all the others are fantastic returns for such a quick scratch game.

There are some possibilities where every single choice will give you a 15, for 180 MGP. I would like to see one of those cards, just to laugh and say there was no point in taking my time deciding which line to pick.