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  1. #11
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    Monoclonal's Avatar
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    Monoclonal Gammopathy
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    I couldn't agree more

    Dev should put more time into playable rewarding contents like coil rather than repeated grind-fest contents like Gold saucer 1M MGP (for a mount !) with laughable TT tournament or relic shit. GS was fun for first few days but RNG craps involved everywhere and you can be very unlucky to obtain a card while the other guy got it first try. All of this RNG craps have only one purpose is to take players time, and this is very cheap way to do it.

    In coil the boss have certain difficulty make you spending time to learn and even though RNG loots are bad, I still feel accomplished when i clear the turn, got new titles ,put a little bit more dps, more speed killing said turn, more coordination with your teammates etc. But with other trash contents i don't feel any fun nor accomplished. It's just repeat half sleep grind until I burn out or occasionally feel relief when finally got a card after 500 wins.

    Are you really think these contents can keep us until 3.0 ?
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  2. #12
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    They do as much as they can in the time they have

    The only options would be:
    (1) Space it out so you get 1 turn every couple of months instead of 4 turns every 6-8 months
    (2) Help them multiply their staff and produce more content in the same amount of time by recruiting a few million friends to the game
    ...(3) Plan more carefully and consider endgame-raids (that a lot of people wont see before they nerf them) important enough to design them.

    I'm not a real endgame-raider myself and way more casual so I dont really care about it personally tbh but I'd still support this plea since I can imagine that its feels a bit bitter for people who are infact into this sort of stuff.

    Because, and I got the impression that you missed that point, Rufalus, this isnt a person asking "Why isnt there more endgamecontent?!", this is a person trying to show SE "Hey, we DO care about this endgamecontent and we'd liked to have more of it - not much more but 8 months...?" Lets face it: Most of people arent doing (Final) Coil at all - no static, no interest, whatever. So its not a surprise at all that SE favours this majority my releasing content that fits their benefits more (but that can also be enjoyed by raiders ofc). Thats the reason threads like this are important though: To show SE that there ARE people who would like more raids and that it would be worth it to invest more time into content that most of the people wont ever see - or not for a long, long time...
    (the (2)-option wouldnt change anything - its not only about subscriptions or money or staff - its also about the decision of they wanna invest time into developing content the majority of players doesnt care about)
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  3. #13
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    Alan Turing
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Wanna keep people busy till 3.0?

    Remove Poetics-Cap
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  4. #14
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    Tiger Undie
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    I could imagine that they'll remove all existing coil + wod lockouts and remove the poetic cap with the upcoming storypatch
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    They do as much as they can in the time they have

    The only options would be:
    (1) Space it out so you get 1 turn every couple of months instead of 4 turns every 6-8 months
    (2) Help them multiply their staff and produce more content in the same amount of time by recruiting a few million friends to the game
    (3) Re-use existing art assets to create additional/experimental battle content that offers decent enough filler/side-grade pieces.

    I wouldn't mind FFXI's Assault system in XIV. It'd let the XIV devs get more zone mileage out of the stuff they created, and provides a variety of distractions and different objections to clear the content.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grotesque View Post
    Wanna keep people busy till 3.0?

    Remove Poetics-Cap
    How would that keep people busy until June? :P If I'm taking a look at how fast I'm getting the uncaped tomestones aka sols I wont be busy for 3 more month to get all the poetics-gear... and not everyone has/plays all classes :P

    Also: the OP didnt asked to be kept busy with running old content again, he asked for new raiding-content to be added a bit more steadily^^
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  7. #17
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    Time between first coil and second coil was 7 months, time between second and final was 7 months.
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  8. #18
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    Lynia Celeste
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monoclonal View Post
    I couldn't agree more

    Dev should put more time into playable rewarding contents like coil rather than repeated grind-fest contents like Gold saucer 1M MGP (for a mount !) with laughable TT tournament or relic shit. GS was fun for first few days but RNG craps involved everywhere and you can be very unlucky to obtain a card while the other guy got it first try. All of this RNG craps have only one purpose is to take players time, and this is very cheap way to do it.

    In coil the boss have certain difficulty make you spending time to learn and even though RNG loots are bad, I still feel accomplished when i clear the turn, got new titles ,put a little bit more dps, more speed killing said turn, more coordination with your teammates etc. But with other trash contents i don't feel any fun nor accomplished. It's just repeat half sleep grind until I burn out or occasionally feel relief when finally got a card after 500 wins.


    Are you really think these contents can keep us until 3.0 ?
    This only highlights the severe difference in the playerbase.

    What to you is a waste of time, to others is their entire gaming involvement. People play the heck out of TT and Choco Racing, either because they really want the high MGP rewards, or because they really enjoy playing them. Or both. People can raid Coil for the same reasons - they really want the gear, they really enjoy raiding, or both.

    Either way, Gold Saucer was 'anything' but a waste of development. It will keep long after any raid.
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  9. #19
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    you missed that point, Rufalus
    ...it would be worth it to invest more time into content that most of the people wont ever see
    ...they wanna invest time into developing content the majority of players doesnt care about
    They do try to cater to all kinds of players somewhat as their strategy. I think it's obvious they wouldn't want to skew things in favor of the hardcore by diverting resources away from other kinds of content to provide more hardcore stuff that you say yourself most people won't ever see. Just from a business point of view, it doesn't help the game be successful to cater to a niche in exchange for less non-raid content.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephrAM
    Either way, Gold Saucer was 'anything' but a waste of development. It will keep long after any raid.
    I feel that way too. Manderville GS is a good value addition that many players can enjoy from a low level and it adds variety and uniqueness to this mmo when compared to others.
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