Foe Reqiem, and your dungeon party.

[Llyren]

Is it more dps to Foe Requiem for the white mage that just entered Cleric Stance or to just keep dpsing. Maybe it is better to Mana song since Holy can quickly deplete their mp pool?

assumption: No caster dps class around, 1 Bard 1 Melee or even 2 Bards. The healer haven''t needed mana song, pretty unlikely yer gonna die while casting, however it is time away from doing damage while you are casting.

Mainly looking for dungeon grouping answers, Currently I Foe Requiem if I see Cleric Stance pop up in those situations, that might be the wrong answer though.

[Slappah]

I mean, foes is like a what, 1-2 second cast? You don't drop that much dps by casting it.

If the mage doesn't need MP, yes throw up a foes because why not? Extra damage is extra damage and I don't think the sole cast time from foes makes it not worth it.

[Cutie_McSnuggles]

As a healer I love it when BRDs use Foe for me.

[Llyren]

The social answer is clearly to Foe's.

As to casting time I think of it as one regular attack for a 10% bonus too all their attacks for a period of time, but as a healer they may not be be filling that time entirely with attacks. The question isn't will the cute Lalafell healer like it, but which is better mechanically.

[YoloSwaggins]

If you don't want to waste time DPSing, then start casting it while the tank is running up to the mobs/boss.

[Krr]

Foe's is less than one GCD of animation for multiple GCDs of bonus damage for your WHM/BLM/ACN. Do the math, basically.

[Roshidon1]

good question, i generally pop it in dungeons even if there are no casters but a healer doing damage with foe req up is better than him doing damage without it up. I try to precast it on a fight to minimize dps loss. I get what you're saying about casting it in combat basically when does it become a dps increase and I'm not entirely sure, you would have to have some good math skills to figure that out.

EDIT: Used my good math skills to do some math. bard at 360 dps= 18,000 damage over 50 seconds (roughly a full foe requiem) 16,920 if you cast it in combat. (17,300ish with dots up?)
I put the healer at 200 dps cuz I'm not sure how much they do honestly. That's 10,000 damage normally over 50 seconds, 10940 with foe requiem. So you're still looking at a slight dps loss to cast foe requiem in combat for a healer doing 200 dps over almost a full foe requiem. If the bard has dots rolling he will be doing slightly more damage because those still roll as he casts, probably making it a slight dps increase to cast the song.

[Maero]

Singing Foe does not lower your dps Slappah, lol
Having foe up even if just for a sch or whm helps, Ninja's benefit as well.
It is dependant on group composition, etc.
If it is half and half (casters, plus melee) and i am the only Bard i may sing foe for half and then turn it off to either regen or use Ballad if i know healers may need mp

[Roshidon1]

Singing Foe does not lower your dps Slappah, lol

Actually it does…You're singing instead of using heavy shot/whatever

[Maero]

Ahh i misread what he said, i apologize.
The few seconds it takes to sing sure, but once active does not lower dps