Enough RMT!

[Nekodar]

Excalibur is rmt and bot paradise. If SE says that using outside programs to macro stuff is a violation, why North shroud bots still prevail? Why are shard farming bots still there even after many ppl reporting? They ban accounts? Not the Inês i blisted then. Rarely i see a "deleted" there... Not to say the ppl spamming holy all day long in gold saucer triad area

Banned does not mean character gets deleted...

[Paradedc]

I think they should just make it so free accounts can't send tells. It wouldn't get rid of the actual RMT that are earning the money but at least it would probably help with the spam.

[Aerowaffle]

I think they should just make it so free accounts can't send tells. It wouldn't get rid of the actual RMT that are earning the money but at least it would probably help with the spam.

Free accounts can't send tells already, nor can they send friend invites I believe.

The tell and friend spam you get, are from accounts that have been paid for.

[SCUBA_Instr]

... The tell and friend spam you get, are from accounts that have been paid for.

with stolen credit card accounts.

In short - if you need a full account to spam effectively, then you buy a full account. Online credit card fraud isn't just limited to using fake / stolen credit card numbers (although I'm sure that is there); it's also using credit card charge back facilities to bascially play for free.

Source

Bots pay sub fees with stolen credit cards and game time cards bought with stolen credit cards, which eventually get chargeback'd, thus providing no financial incentive to Blizzard for allowing them to remain in the game.

players forget that these spammers aren’t nice folks who legitimately buy accounts. In SOE’s case, the most egregious spammers bought all their accounts with stolen credit card information — info taken from people they made real-money trades with.

So here’s what happens: some random stupid player buys $30 worth of gold with his credit card, then one day logs in to find that his account had been banned. And then he gets his credit card bill and sees that all 40 of his accounts have been banned… except he only owned one account. He then calls his credit card company, the charges are reversed, and SOE doesn’t get a dime — in fact, they lose a good bit of money in transaction fees and wasted time spent dealing with the problem.

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Follow the Money: Terrorism and RMT

[Sandoria]

I think they should just make it so free accounts can't send tells. It wouldn't get rid of the actual RMT that are earning the money but at least it would probably help with the spam.

Free accounts already can't send tells. What we need is account wide blacklists or deletion timers so they can't make a new character every 2 minutes to respam everyone with.

[Paradedc]

Free accounts already can't send tells. What we need is account wide blacklists or deletion timers so they can't make a new character every 2 minutes to respam everyone with.

Well dang! Thanks for the info.

[AsahinaMyLove]

cant even play this game without having busy-mode active >_>

[Spawnie]

RMT isnt that bad in odin.. i rarely see 1 advertising in any map n maybe get a /tell once every 2-3 days which i report n blacklist anyways

[Purrfectstorm]

I get many RMT ads and friend requests from people with names like dfg sdfdfa per hour. I was playing with busy status on but then I was frustrated that I couldn't receive legit tells. I've stopped even blacklisting people anymore. It takes an enormous amount of work and they're deleting the characters and making new ones right away now anyway. SE has to do more than they're doing. It's unrealistic to think that we can get other players to boycott gilsellers because it is socially frowned upon. Players who buy and sell gil need to face real consequences and SE should have a better anti-spam system in place (a whitelist, only so many tells per min, a level requirement on sending tells, better filters, account blacklisting, something, anything more than what there is now).

Edit: in the one min span of time it took me to type this, I received 2 gilseller tells...

[Dyvid]

I wish SE was more proactive instead of reactive with RMT. Would it really be hard for GMs to make a dummy character, log in, and just sit there a few minutes while RMT floods them with friend request and /tells? Send a global /sh asking the players if they have seen any suspected RMT so they can go investigate. Get out and walk the beat instead of seating behind a desk waiting for calls.