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    Heavensward will have less raiding content then A Realm Reborn

    So I just saw the PAX video and when they were going over the new raid they said it will have a easy and hard mode of the same raid so it will be like WoW that has LFR and normal version of the same raid.

    At the moment In a Realm Reborn we have two different raids Crystal Tower the easy raid and the Binding Coil the hard raid.

    I am disappointed they are changing this and just going to copy WoWs system as we will end up with less raid content.

    The current system we have of having two different raids one that for the more causal types and another one for the more hard core types was a much better system and something no other MMO I had played had done before.
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    Pretty sure there will be another raid area for 24 man raids. Granted I missed the stream so, I dunno if they said they are going to make the easy mode Alexander a 24 man and the hard mode an 8 man. *shrug* Did they say that? Because if not, then Alexander should be an 8 man raid, Easy or Hard. That would still leave us with a 24 man raid to do.
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    Or there will be a Normal and Hard raid, Alexander, that will be the new 8-man raid to replace Coil, and also a new 24-man raid (which may or may not have two difficulty tiers).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyousha View Post
    Umm... when it first came out, it was challenging. Now? A year later? Of course it's easy. But that doesn't dismiss it from being a raid anymore. Hell, When WoD was released a bit ago, it was hard as hell. Now? Easy, and you get mocked for wiping. Just because content becomes easy in a month doesn't change what the content is. I know you were probably being sarcastic with your comment, but... Well, yeah, it's a raid :P
    If you thought WoD was hard when it came out I don't know what to say to you.
    Crystal tower is only hard because of the vast amount of incompetence that plagues the duty finder. Lucky I was able to just make a premade and one shot it with my FC during the first couple weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noblewar View Post
    Who cares if its 24 man raid if you still can only Q with 8! Let us Q as 24 for fucks sake!
    You've been able to do this for a very long time....
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    The 24-player easy-mode raids are too damn popular (and fun) to drop. While the 3.0 patch is likely to be somewhat sparse with new endgame content, I doubt that we'll be starved of it for long. Same as how 2.0 was.
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    The floating continent is supposed to be the new 24 man dungeon.

    Also people actually consider CT a raid? By loose definition i could understand(24 people) but I mean it's not even challenging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skapoc View Post
    Also people actually consider CT a raid?
    This was my thought exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJointss View Post
    This was my thought exactly
    Feels so good to be so pro, I gotta show it in the forums! Ahhhhh yes. Feeling good about myself now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skapoc View Post
    People actually consider CT a raid? By loose definition i could understand(24 people) but I mean it's not even challenging.
    Umm... when it first came out, it was challenging. Now? A year later? Of course it's easy. But that doesn't dismiss it from being a raid anymore. Hell, When WoD was released a bit ago, it was hard as hell. Now? Easy, and you get mocked for wiping. Just because content becomes easy in a month doesn't change what the content is. I know you were probably being sarcastic with your comment, but... Well, yeah, it's a raid :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skapoc View Post
    Also people actually consider CT a raid? By loose definition i could understand(24 people) but I mean it's not even challenging.
    It is a raid, by all definitions.

    SE simply made the incredibly wise decision to deliver harder content to smaller, tighter-knit groups (Coil) where individual contribution carries more weight, while making the easier content available to the large groups (CT), allowing a far more generous margin of error.

    It is an exceedingly sensible design. A raid is still a raid, for whatever value that term carries.
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