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  1. #31
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade View Post
    Like, you have a 1000mp pool and increase 1 stack of this "aetherflow" would cost like 600mp? It's interesting. Managing mp and using the stacks to use some skills... sounds promising.
    But something tells me it will be like a bard's song... While you sing it, threat will increase, mp will decrease and you gain access to dark powers. And you can cancel the 'stance' anytime to save mp.
    I was thinking more like "Spend X amount of MP to get 3~5 stacks of Darkness™". Then you spend these stacks on The Good Stuff™--your most powerful (but not only) abilities for threat generation, mitigation, or damage if you're good on the first two counts.

    Of course, this is all just pure speculation. Your take also sounds interesting!
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  2. #32
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    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Yeah I see PIE builds being the new Parry builds. Somebody will swear by them just because. PLD/WAR/DRK will use the same gear whether its Alexander drops or the next CT series.
    Indeed / agree

    PIE isn't even that good for healers lmao
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    Hoarders gonna Horde.

  3. #33
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    Kori Fleming
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    Marauder Lv 80
    PIE could be interesting, but it's uses will be limited to melded gear regardless. I can't see them adding PIE to any normal tank gear, even DRK's AF. There was interesting theory crafting going on at one point early in 2.4 that BLM could get another Fire 1 with enough PIE every rotation, and I think we might see something similar to that with DRK if it uses boons of MP for it's spells. Unlike PIE, I don't think Spell Speed will have the same effect, unless SpS changes to regenerate more MP or something.

    Also, I'm glad to hear that the speculation I posted was in the right ballpark. I especially like Myth's idea of sacrificing health to regain MP, to then use more spells - that sounds like a really fun system to mess with and would add some much needed variety/risk to tanking. I do hope they incorporate blood in some way and don't just drop it from DRK completely.
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  4. #34
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    Edellis's Avatar
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    Ixora Lepta
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    Zalera
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    Archer Lv 73
    Here's hoping they function a bit like TERA's Slayer/Berserker, where you start with 0 MP, gain it through battle and use it for skills, and lose it when inactive.
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  5. #35
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Assuming this means that DRK is going to have a mix of weapon skills and spells, then skill speed is going to be total junk for them. That is, unless they do what they should have done at first and merged skill speed & spell speed into a single stat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Picori View Post
    Hope tanks don't share gear. The AF2 set might be like first set and then myth was. All there own job. Having tanks all same gear is lazy.
    WHY?!!

    If all tanks share the same gear, then when I gear up my DRK i'll have a full set of good gear for WAR/PLD ready to go. Only extra thing I need for the WAR/PLD would be the weapons and PLD shield.

    Great if a specific fight calls for something DRK can't do (or can't do as well as one of the two other tanks).
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    Last edited by Giantbane; 03-10-2015 at 11:13 AM.

  6. #36
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    Jon Bigwood
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    That being said Yoshi did mention a redesign of loot drops from coil.
    There are many options apart from tokens. The system of antique gear in some dungeons that can be rolled by all classes and then exchanged for gear of the class you like is other option, but it might make too easy to get the gear, since always somebody will get a piece of gear. And everybody would roll (except loot agreements) since you can exchange it for any class.

    About shared gears, I like them a lot, you level a job like WAR and you have all the PLD shared gear already if PLD is your main. The same for SCH and WHM, ACN and BLM, NIN and MNK.
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  7. #37
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    Slappah Lol
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    Jenova
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JonBigwood View Post
    About shared gears, I like them a lot, you level a job like WAR and you have all the PLD shared gear already if PLD is your main. The same for SCH and WHM, ACN and BLM, NIN and MNK.
    Ninja and mink technically only share gear 1-50 and only ilvl 110 and below gear. Ironworks and above they have separate sets.

    They also share level 50 right side gear with bard, not monk.
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  8. #38
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    Nel Synestra
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    Moogle
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    I especially like Myth's idea of sacrificing health to regain MP
    This could totally be possible as BLM's already have Convert that does this, also it would fit for DRK theme afterall.
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  9. #39
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    Scruffy Twopointoh
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    All of the INT and PIE comments are making me laugh. DRK isn't a DPS, why would it get INT? "The power of darkness" is not the same thing as "black magic". PIE is interesting.. we'll have to see if its actually a viable stat to meld. DRK's aren't getting their own gear set outside of AF armor. Tank gear will be GLA/MRD/PLD/WAR/DRK.
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    Dark will cross class with MRD, GLA and THM.
    So manaward, foresight, provoke, blood bath and flash. I would even go as far as saying that they will get perfect dodge.
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