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  1. #21
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    Xenosan's Avatar
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    I too don't think the MP consumption will constitute Pie builds. I think MP management will be a limited MP pool that will work as a priority system during fights.. Like Vargas said about stance dancing
    I imagine there's going to be MP consuming abilities that do each of the following
    -Damage mitigation, Damage boost, Threat Generation
    Tanking will involve managing these options (limited by MP pool), deciding when it's safe to switch from threat generation to damage mitigation or dps boost. Burning too much mp in 1 area would handicap other options, so focusing entirely on threat or mitigation would drastically reduce dps potential and vice versa.

    When they said "MP to use powers of Darkness" gives me the impression they'll get their own darknessy version of Flash, GLA may not be a cross class??
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  2. #22
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    Blue Thunder
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    Cactuar
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Chances are they have more of a mix of tp and mp skills, with a tp combo giving some mp back just like riot blade. Maybe also a CD to give you a more substancial mp recovery for panic situations.

    MP skills will be you big threat/damage skills, and your TP your basic and MP recovery skills.

    These are my thoughts.
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  3. #23
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    Roxas Andrade
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    Famfrit
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    As we saw on reddit:
    "[...]The Dark Knight will be using his MP to draw the power of darkness. But it’s not just a simple using of your MP to execute your actions but you draw from that power of darkness and you can either use it for an attack or use it to boost your defense and you’ll be strategizing on maintaining that power of darkness and managing your MP so it’s a very unique style of play in the tank role." - Yoshi P.

    I think that power of darkness will be DKN's 'tank stance'. Some actions will only be usable under it, but it will drain his mp so he won't be able to be full power all the time...
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  4. #24
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    Get you X-Ether pots ready . 4min 30 sec cooldown for a measly 550 recovered.
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  5. #25
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Incoming Spikes for damage reduction

    Fire Spikes - 20% damage for 20 seconds, deals fire damage every time you are hit
    Ice Spikes - 20% damage for 20 seconds, chance to paralyze fodder
    Dread Spikes -40% damage for 10 seconds, absorbs HP based on damage taken

    No recast timer just high MP cost.

    Absorb MP,TP,STR,DEX,VIT,INT,MND


    Offensive magic could be En-spells but only one spike/en-spell active at one time. Its stealing a page from RDMs book but WAR stole a lot from DRK so who knows.
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    Last edited by SirTaint; 03-10-2015 at 01:02 AM.

  6. #26
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Roxas_Andrade View Post
    snip
    That actually makes me wonder if it won't work a bit more akin to Aetherflow stacks (except, perhaps, costing MP instead of restoring it?)
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  7. #27
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    good stuff.
    You are expecting way too much out of an FF14 job, unfortunately.
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  8. #28
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    Iam Groot
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    I would seriously question a decision to put non tanking stats on tank gear ie Int or Pie. Giving DRK its own gear set would be pretty dumb, from a loot standpoint.
    That being said Yoshi did mention a redesign of loot drops from coil. I have a strong suspicion that they are moving towards a token drop system like in WoW. (refering to high lvl gear drops) By adding 3 additional classes, they will be randomzing useable drops in a raid way too much.

    But since they have already stated that the gear system is changing, there are no rules as to what kind of stats we could see on DRK armor.
    My guess is DRK will sacrifice health or defense to gain back MP, or to use powerful attacks. He can probably also use MP to cast defensive spells. So if you go all out on Attack spells you won't survive, ect you get the point.
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    Hoarders gonna Horde.

  9. #29
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    Roxas Andrade
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    That actually makes me wonder if it won't work a bit more akin to Aetherflow stacks (except, perhaps, costing MP instead of restoring it?)
    Like, you have a 1000mp pool and increase 1 stack of this "aetherflow" would cost like 600mp? It's interesting. Managing mp and using the stacks to use some skills... sounds promising.
    But something tells me it will be like a bard's song... While you sing it, threat will increase, mp will decrease and you gain access to dark powers. And you can cancel the 'stance' anytime to save mp.
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  10. #30
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MythToken View Post
    Snip because the terrible 1052 limit.


    Yeah I see PIE builds being the new Parry builds. Somebody will swear by them just because. PLD/WAR/DRK will use the same gear whether its Alexander drops or the next CT series.
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